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post #76 of 522
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Originally Posted by lmilhan View Post
For your ears sake, I am praying that they let too much noise in, and that you don't mean that they leaked too much noise out. Because if you are listening at volumes high enough that enables someone siting next to you to hear music leaking from a pair of D5000s, you are listening WAY too loud, and WILL destroy your hearing..
No, I did mean that they leak too much sound out.

Now, it wasn't to the extent that you could, say, sing along to what I was listening to, but the "tick-tick-tick" of the hi-hat on dance tracks was definitely audible. Possibly it wasn't loud enough for the guy in the cube next to me to hear it, but I didn't want to take the chance.
post #77 of 522
I might consider these as they are half the price of the HD800s. I'm looking for a can not quite as 'gentlemanly' as the HD600s, which I enjoy... How are the vocalists placed in regards to this can? Are they up front?
post #78 of 522
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Originally Posted by KevM2 View Post
How are the vocalists placed in regards to this can? Are they up front?
I wouldn't say up front, but I wouldn't say recessed either. But I guess it all depends on what you're used to hearing and what cans you're using as reference. The D7000's don't have a peaky midrange anyway.
post #79 of 522
I find the mids slightly recessed which seems to be a fav of most guys.
post #80 of 522
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Originally Posted by Robonaut View Post
No, I did mean that they leak too much sound out.

Now, it wasn't to the extent that you could, say, sing along to what I was listening to, but the "tick-tick-tick" of the hi-hat on dance tracks was definitely audible. Possibly it wasn't loud enough for the guy in the cube next to me to hear it, but I didn't want to take the chance.

That's good to hear. I am sorry if I sounded preachy, but I am always so concerned for people when I hear them listening to headphones at extreme volume levels. Which leads me to a fun story. A year or so back, my wife and I were out for a walk in the neighborhood. We passed by one of our neighbors house, and there was a young boy in the yard doing some yardwork (raking up leaves). As we were approaching him, I could clearly see he had some earbuds in - I will assume Apple iBuds as the cords going up to his ears where white. Now mind you we were about 20 feet away from him at this point, outside on a slightly windy day...

I could easily hear the music he was blasting into his ear canals. I was beside myself. I can only imagine the damage he was (unwittingly) doing to his hearing. I probably should have politely told him about the dangers of listening at such extreme volumes, but I decided it was none of my business, so we just continued on our way.

True story.

I am so paranoid of damaging my own hearing that I bought a pair of fancy volume attenuating earplugs for loud concerts and clubs, etc. And I also bought an SPL meter to monitor the DB levels of my headphone listening habits, and I am always very vigilant about keeping the DBs well below the safety levels recommended by OSHA. I would be devastated if I ever lost or damaged my hearing - even more so if it was due to my own negligence / stupidity.


I digress.

Back to the D7000s.
Yep, I am really digging these phones. They have been able to easily handle every genre of music I have thrown at them. They even have a magical way of making poor recordings sound pretty darn good which is a plus in my book. They are a great pair of "all 'rounder" headphones. They have become my new go-to phones for sure.
post #81 of 522
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Originally Posted by lmilhan View Post
I am so paranoid of damaging my own hearing that I bought a pair of fancy volume attenuating earplugs for loud concerts and clubs, etc.
Nothing "paranoid" about that, that's just common sense. I used to DJ in clubs and I always wore earplugs. I can only imagine what has happened to the hearing of my fellows who did not take such precautions.

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And I also bought an SPL meter to monitor the DB levels of my headphone listening habits, and I am always very vigilant about keeping the DBs well below the safety levels recommended by OSHA.
The above, though, is a bit closer to the border of paranoid-land. LOL.
post #82 of 522
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Originally Posted by wovenhand View Post
I wouldn't say up front, but I wouldn't say recessed either. But I guess it all depends on what you're used to hearing and what cans you're using as reference. The D7000's don't have a peaky midrange anyway.
I'm currently using an HD600. Would you say they are a little more forward than that?
post #83 of 522
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Originally Posted by KevM2 View Post
I'm currently using an HD600. Would you say they are a little more forward than that?
Though I've owned the HD650, I have sadly never had a chance to listen to the HD600's. They are on my to buy-list though, right after a K.I.C.A.S. amp and the ATH-AD2000.
post #84 of 522
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...And on the topic of my previous post, from owners/extensive auditioneers of both the ATH-AD2000 and the AH-D7000, what can I expect going from the D7000 to the AD2000? A more prominent midrange as well as larger soundstage I presume?
The AD2000 will be my next can, but before that I'm going for the K.I.C.A.S. amp. Still, I'm curious and want to tickle the ol' buying bone.
post #85 of 522
The AD2000 are indeed pretty good, but I never found them to be particularly special. They were my first high-end headphones but I had them for maybe a year and a half or so before I got seriously into (obsessed with?) headphones (and Head Fi). Upgrading my run of the mill earbuds to some mid-level Shures actually turned out to be the gateway drug for me. Still, lots of folks love them, so you might be one! You will definitely gain some soundstage and speed and they are more forward sounding and brighter. I really love bright sounding phones but my ears just can't take them. The D7000s are perfect in that aspect for me. You will give up a lot in the lower end (too much for my tastes; they would fit in my bass-lite category) and in the comfort category. The driver casing touched my ears and I found the clamping excessive. I sold them off after getting the W5000s which I thought did most things better despite the advantages of open headphones. I would be willing to give them another shot, but only because I learned of the pad mods after I sold them. But... I would have to find them for an amazing deal AND be in a serious shopping state of mind. I think the RS-1s have similar aspects and I much prefered that signature over the AD2000s.
post #86 of 522
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Thanks for you impressions Gu Sensei, I appreciate the input.
You wrote that you found the clamping excessive, but don't they use the same "flap" construction as the W5000 (which I found way too loose)? I've read that they clamp more than the W5000, but do they really clamp that much?
Btw, I know it's probably just a typo but they're closed 'phones.
"I sold them off after getting the W5000s which I thought did most things better despite the advantages of open headphones."
I wasn't that impressed with the W5000 even when applying pressure to the ear cups to get a proper seal. I've read that many seem to prefer the AD2000 over the W5000, so I'm hoping to be one of those people.

As far as Grado's go I've heard every model up to, and including, the SR325i and I just couldn't get over their glass-shattering highs. I like a can to have extended highs, but I don't like them to be razor sharp.
Anyway, having listened to 5-6 Grado models, and not liking a single one, it just totally turned me off from bothering to check out their higher line.
post #87 of 522
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Originally Posted by lmilhan View Post
Yep, I am really digging these phones. They have been able to easily handle every genre of music I have thrown at them. They even have a magical way of making poor recordings sound pretty darn good which is a plus in my book. They are a great pair of "all 'rounder" headphones. They have become my new go-to phones for sure.
lmilhan, we are definitely on the same page. I think the lower end of the D7000s is their crowning achievement, but a close second and of greater practical importance, is the all-rounder aspect. That is really big to me as I do not really like changing headphones in a listening session. I just notice what I lost from the previous headphones more than what I gained by making the switch. I also listen to a lot of stuff like Beck which is fairly multi-genre music and specialty phones just won't do. I like the simplicity too.

A lot of stuff I like, I can equally enjoy through the GS1000s, but there is a healthy selection of music that I really like that sounded passable to pretty good with my Grados but just shine with the Denons:

Bob Dylan
Macy Gray
Talking Heads
Frank Zappa
Nirvana

All of the above get heavy rotation and it is so nice to be able to thoroughly enjoy them the way I can now with the Denons.

Other music that I love that also is in heavy rotation that I thought sounded very good with my Grados but is taken to a whole new level with the Denons:

Prince
Radiohead
Michael Jackson
Disco (as a genre)
80's pop/rock
PJ Harvey
Bjork

AND, there is a lot of music that would rarely get ear-time but gets played more often just because it sounds so incredibly cool with the D7000s:

Garbage
REM
Yo Yo Ma
Yes
Rush
Van Halen
Classical and Jazz

Fun fun fun!
post #88 of 522
I hear you Gu Sensei...they are a fantastic rock and r&b headphone. I think these are really the weapon of choice for cube-dwellers who like mainstream music and have to avoid bothering their coworkers with an open-backed headphone.
post #89 of 522
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Originally Posted by KevM2 View Post
I'm currently using an HD600. Would you say they are a little more forward than that?
Yes. I'd say. They seem to push the high mids a little further to the front of the mix than do the HD600s or 650s. Despite all the Senn comparisons, I'd actually describe these as more RS1-like than Senn-like. Pace, bass and fun-factor loom large with these phones, and they share the Grados' ability to sound decent out of even very modest setups, unlike the 600/650. I may actually part with my non-vintage RS1s in favour of these Denons (minimize...minimize...).

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post #90 of 522
just a quick question...

for those people who have had experience with the D7000, are the P-51 or 3Move portable amps going to a good fit? those are the two amps i currently have my hands on, and im wondering if either will do the new Denons justice.

On the same topic, will either be well with the D5000 or MD5000?
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