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post #151 of 997
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Can I ask one of you guys who have experience with Ultrasones (oqvist's PRO900?) how their sound signature compares to the German Maestros? I saw mentions of big soundstage and that they don't sound like closed cans. I'm thinking about trying Ultrasones and would like these characteristics.
I had a unmodded Pro900 for a couple of days.
They have indeed a large soundstage and a lot of detail.
On the other hand, the bass was utterly overwhelming, mids recessed and the highs piercing, metallic and sibilant. I never heard such a unbalanced and unpleasant sounding headphone.
I prefer my GMT250 anytime over the Pro900.
post #152 of 997
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Can I ask one of you guys who have experience with Ultrasones (oqvist's PRO900?) how their sound signature compares to the German Maestros? I saw mentions of big soundstage and that they don't sound like closed cans. I'm thinking about trying Ultrasones and would like these characteristics.
Can do a comparison between Kees Modded Pro 900 and 8.35D Monitor. KeeS modded fixes pretty much all of the issues Tiemen claims on his. You can get K701 level bass if you like that and you seldom ever hear that being a bassy headphone. I tuned it so I have a bit more then that in volume though.

Treble can be smoother with more nuances then any headphone I have heard to date but on some recordings can be harsh and sibilant. As you should expect from a high fidelity headphone it doesn´t try to smooth out recordings even though I would take a headphone with suce detail and resolution etc without the sibilance if it was possible.

8.35D monitors with stock pads surely sound like closed headphones after listening to K701 and Pro 900. However the 8.35D monitors while generally having quite small soundstage can surprise you and sometimes get ultra wide but it certainly doesn´t happen often. The new pads remove the bass and thus increase the soundstage as you could expect. But then you get way less bass then on the K701 to the point you really have to focus to hear the bass. I like that presentation but it get to close to what the Pro 900 do but it still does pretty much everything better and with full bass.

The 8.35D monitors are both slower and smoother then the Pro 900. They manage to do what the Hd 650 fail for me. smooth out recordings yet still being musical. And the treble is fuller still so it´s not as dark. It´s still clear with voices unlike the GMP 400 which drown out the voices some.

They don´t quite have the PRaT of the Pro 900 which it´s super detailed more extended bass and speed but they have some slow groove definiatly in them. But even though they certainly have a lot of mid bass they do sound natural and full bodied. The Pro 900 can sometimes sound thin due to having less mid bass a bit like the K701.

At the moment I do enjoy both equally but it´s totally different headphones so liking one may not mean you like the other lol. But if you are going to have a two headphone setup it doesn´t really make sense to have one that do the same thing better then the other right
post #153 of 997
Thank you. Pro 900 are pricewise out of my league anyway, but HFI780 seem to be quite popular. Shouldn't be difficult to resell them if I don't like the sound signature.
post #154 of 997
780 is quite different though from what I have read
post #155 of 997
I was at mediamarkt today to check out if they indead had some German Maestros in there. Sure enough what I believe is the 8.400 was there. Same casing and headband like the 8.35D but different ear pads and driver it seemed from a hastly look.

Sounded quite different to the 8.35D monitor though. Somewhere between the 8.35D monitors with the stock or new pads in balance. And quite sibilant but well I doubt the source is all that and the music is compressed so may just be that I hear.

But well you get some idea about the soundstage, comfort and isolation and looks of course

Earpads was surely nice though. Not oval but round and completely circumaural.
post #156 of 997
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Originally Posted by oqvist View Post
I was at mediamarkt today to check out if they indead had some German Maestros in there. Sure enough what I believe is the 8.400 was there. Same casing and headband like the 8.35D but different ear pads and driver it seemed from a hastly look.

Sounded quite different to the 8.35D monitor though. Somewhere between the 8.35D monitors with the stock or new pads in balance. And quite sibilant but well I doubt the source is all that and the music is compressed so may just be that I hear.

But well you get some idea about the soundstage, comfort and isolation and looks of course

Earpads was surely nice though. Not oval but round and completely circumaural.

Looks like they use the same driver as the 400/450 on the 8.400. It's hard to drive the 300 ohms with your system ?
post #157 of 997
I haven´t tried them unamped really but if you judge by volume control I need way less volume then for my Pro 900 and K701.
post #158 of 997
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I haven´t tried them unamped really but if you judge by volume control I need way less volume then for my Pro 900 and K701.
Very interesting, so on your system the 400/450 are more loud than the Pro-900 and the 701?
post #159 of 997
Yes by quite a margin. But the volume control on the Slee Solo is kind of weird.
post #160 of 997
MB Quart was a great company, so I would bet their new lineup should rock. The QP 400 was a real reference.

So far it seems that AKG 240DF users prefer the Beyerdynamic DT150 even more. How does the German Maestro line stack up to the 150?
post #161 of 997
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MB Quart was a great company, so I would bet their new lineup should rock. The QP 400 was a real reference.

So far it seems that AKG 240DF users prefer the Beyerdynamic DT150 even more. How does the German Maestro line stack up to the 150?
If you like the K240DF, you can try the GMP/QP-240/250. The 240 are flat and the 250 have more bass. I don't have experience with the DT150, but after the 8.35 with the newer pads, I found my new close design for studio preference.
post #162 of 997
Have you get to try the velour pads yet?
post #163 of 997
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Have you get to try the velour pads yet?
Yep, I'm not crazy about the velour pads. They make the sound more flat, but the high pop up to the front, which is a little strange for me. I like them with the custom pads, really relaxing and warm, no worries about sibilance whatsoever. And I like them with the new pads, it makes the sound more bright and I like the combination with the top resolution on the bass, but still in balance with the rest of the frequencies and of course, the super isolation.
post #164 of 997
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Originally Posted by Reticuli2 View Post
MB Quart was a great company, so I would bet their new lineup should rock. The QP 400 was a real reference.

So far it seems that AKG 240DF users prefer the Beyerdynamic DT150 even more. How does the German Maestro line stack up to the 150?
My GMP250 is a good replacement of the DT150, especially with Beyer leather earpads. So much better comfort.
As for sound, the GMP250 mids are a bit sharper and faster, making them more suitable for rock. Electric guitars sounds more natural.
Highs and bass are more or less the same, DT150 has more midbass. And a wider soundstage. The GMP250 has a cleaner sound, less grain
The DT150 also isolates a lot better.
post #165 of 997
I'm seriously considering buying a set of these headphones to upgrade my V6. My only concern is how portable are they? Would they be a can that I could constantly travel with and take to work? Thanks for the help.
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