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post #31 of 58

Grey filters.

 

What the Phonak was known for the Black clouds the mids a bit.

 

Also lessening instrument separation, the green does this as well even more so.

post #32 of 58

I prefer the greens!

post #33 of 58

just changed from black filter to grey filters. load more of clarity

post #34 of 58
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Originally Posted by mobbaddict View Post

I use grey filters and black olives: very nice sounding treble (especially for vocals) and tight/punchy bass.


totally

post #35 of 58

Just got my Audeo 112 today. After listening all day at work and switching between the filters my inital impressions are as follows.

 

Grey filters - Very clear, great instrument seperation and detail. sparkly highs and tight punchy base. efficent as well. Volume on my audinst HUD-mx1 is around 10 oclock which is the lowest I have had for my prefered volume level on any headphones ive tried. Digital artifacts are very pronounced. Even though the bass is somewhat lacking the clarity and tightness of it makes it so you can almost feel it. Kinda weird actually.

 

Black filters - much less highs then the grey. Bass is a bit more in quanity and still tight for the most part. However the mids are muddy. More then 10 minutes and I have a headache with these filters. They required a bit more volume then the grey's.

 

Green filters - less clarity then the grey's and definitely more low end but none of the mid muddy stuff from the blacks. The most "balanced" sound of the 3. Digital artifacts and bad recordings are masked by these. Require the most volume. my audinst is at 12-2 oclock.

 

I think the green will be my choice filter for most things. However I can see myself putting the Grey's back in for certain genre's. Blacks I dont like at all.

 

 

post #36 of 58
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Originally Posted by Bun-Bun View Post

Just got my Audeo 112 today. After listening all day at work and switching between the filters my inital impressions are as follows.

 

Grey filters - Very clear, great instrument seperation and detail. sparkly highs and tight punchy base. efficent as well. Volume on my audinst HUD-mx1 is around 10 oclock which is the lowest I have had for my prefered volume level on any headphones ive tried. Digital artifacts are very pronounced. Even though the bass is somewhat lacking the clarity and tightness of it makes it so you can almost feel it. Kinda weird actually.

 

Black filters - much less highs then the grey. Bass is a bit more in quanity and still tight for the most part. However the mids are muddy. More then 10 minutes and I have a headache with these filters. They required a bit more volume then the grey's.

 

Green filters - less clarity then the grey's and definitely more low end but none of the mid muddy stuff from the blacks. The most "balanced" sound of the 3. Digital artifacts and bad recordings are masked by these. Require the most volume. my audinst is at 12-2 oclock.

 

I think the green will be my choice filter for most things. However I can see myself putting the Grey's back in for certain genre's. Blacks I dont like at all.

 

 


Green filters are bass-heavy and not balanced entirely.  They are also what come with the Phonak 011/012s.

 

post #37 of 58

green

 

forget the other two.

post #38 of 58

I prefer the gray ones and the blacks before greens. If you want I change the greens for your greys for future replacements rolleyes.gif

 

edit: swapped with other user.

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green

 

forget the other two.



 


Edited by deyo - 12/14/11 at 5:45am
post #39 of 58
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Green filters are bass-heavy and not balanced entirely.  They are also what come with the Phonak 011/012s.

 


Bass heavy in comparison to grey's and black yes. Bass heavy compared to other earphones and/or speakers not so much. The grey's are lacking in the bass department but come with much greater clarity, instrument seperation and detail. The blacks have a mid bass spike that is very annoying.

 

But as phonak has stated everyone's ear canal is different and these are the results I get with my ears.

 

and not sure what point there is in mentioning the greens are what come with the 011/012's. They are the exact same earphones. Just less accesories and only the green filters come with the 011/012's.
 

 


Edited by Bun-Bun - 12/14/11 at 5:51am
post #40 of 58
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Bass heavy in comparison to grey's and black yes. Bass heavy compared to other earphones and/or speakers not so much. The grey's are lacking in the bass department but come with much greater clarity, instrument seperation and detail. The blacks have a mid bass spike that is very annoying.

 

But as phonak has stated everyone's ear canal is different and these are the results I get with my ears.

 

and not sure what point there is in mentioning the greens are what come with the 011/012's. They are the exact same earphones. Just less accesories and only the green filters come with the 011/012's.
 

 


The green filters have a much deeper v-shape in comparison to the black filters while still having a similar spike (although not as large).  The black filters are more balanced, but still not balanced entirely (the mid-range spike is still balanced with the high end).  Grey filters are mid-heavy with a huge mid-range spike for analytic listeners (but the spike is still balanced with the highs). 

 

Placement of a spike is going to sound different on each ear, like you said.  For example, I hear a huge spike on the MEE A151s, although that spike isn't that big, it sounds big to me and can actually be harsh.  So the spike in the black filters may just be your ears, distance in ear canal creates a natural resonating frequency, for you, it lies right around where the black filters spike at that volume level (bad luck of the draw I guess). 

 

post #41 of 58

I have a packet of greys I plan on never using (used once, cried in horror then swiftly put back in my greens)

 

If anyone wants to half swap for blacks or I could use some backup greens.


let me know.

post #42 of 58
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The green filters have a much deeper v-shape in comparison to the black filters while still having a similar spike (although not as large).  The black filters are more balanced, but still not balanced entirely (the mid-range spike is still balanced with the high end).  Grey filters are mid-heavy with a huge mid-range spike for analytic listeners (but the spike is still balanced with the highs). 

 

Placement of a spike is going to sound different on each ear, like you said.  For example, I hear a huge spike on the MEE A151s, although that spike isn't that big, it sounds big to me and can actually be harsh.  So the spike in the black filters may just be your ears, distance in ear canal creates a natural resonating frequency, for you, it lies right around where the black filters spike at that volume level (bad luck of the draw I guess). 

 



Exactly.

 

Though I put the grey's back into today and played around with the EQ a bit and found that with just some slight boosting in the sub 20-120hz range I can get a very nice sound. Did this with my phone as well (poweramp has an awesome EQ) and I love how these sound now with the greys. Interestingly enough I hate the headphone out on my phone with anything else I use it for but with the Audeo and grey filters I love it. Other headphones sound harsh and don't get loud enough. But with the Audeo's it is perfect one notch from max.

 

post #43 of 58

Just wanted to give a thumbs up to deyo for switching out a pair of his Green filters for my Greys. 

Cheers bud. L3000.gif


Edited by nightic - 12/21/11 at 7:19pm
post #44 of 58

re-living an old thread:

 

I didn't get any green filters on my 112's is that normal lol?

 

Without filter is much louder, and somewhat....prefer it lol

 

Grey's are definitely louder than the black filters

They are also much better in sound separation

 

Personally if you have the PFE's you shouldn't be wanting a large quantity of bass, regardless I THINK the grey filters are for me

 

If I want bass I'll put on my TFTA's lol

 

EDIT:
Update:
I went back to the black ones as the grey ones were a little too bright for my liking - oh well :P


Edited by Totally Dubbed - 1/11/12 at 9:39am
post #45 of 58
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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

re-living an old thread:

 

I didn't get any green filters on my 112's is that normal lol?

 

Without filter is much louder, and somewhat....prefer it lol

 

Grey's are definitely louder than the black filters

They are also much better in sound separation

 

Personally if you have the PFE's you shouldn't be wanting a large quantity of bass, regardless I THINK the grey filters are for me

 

If I want bass I'll put on my TFTA's lol

 

EDIT:
Update:
I went back to the black ones as the grey ones were a little too bright for my liking - oh well :P


That is normal, the 112s come with grey and black filters while the 022s come with green filters.  I also prefer the black filters to the grey ones as they sound more natural to the ear.

 

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