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post #16 of 45
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Originally Posted by manaox2 View Post
A LISA III desktop version is coming soon though. I agree it should be moved into portable amps for discussion, I'm kind of tired of everyone saying that it is drives the HD650 to its top potential. I had it, really loved it, but that is not true.
maybe so, but I dont see anything else portable even getting close. the 650's are notoriously hard to drive to their *full potential* many home amps are hard pressed to do that; and lisa does an admirable job with batteries
post #17 of 45
Thread Starter 
While it may not drive 650s to their utmost potential...and I can't speak form experience...the mere fact that the Lisa has desktop-esque power is impressive in such a small package.

BUT...that does not mean it should be kept in the desktop section.

I have yet to hear a descenting opinion...and am curious if they mods will consider moving it.

Please let it also be known...that I have the utmost respect for those who own/moderate on sites like these and hope that my thread is not preceived as being combative.

RIDE
post #18 of 45
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Originally Posted by qusp View Post
maybe so, but I dont see anything else portable even getting close. the 650's are notoriously hard to drive to their *full potential* many home amps are hard pressed to do that; and lisa does an admirable job with batteries
I agree.
post #19 of 45
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Originally Posted by manaox2 View Post
I agree.
good; i'm glad, i'm really not in the mood for any type of conflict today
post #20 of 45
Thread Starter 
No conflicts indeed

Just looking to hear why the Lisa is listed in the desktop section. I does make it harder for any newer member to search effectively.

Anyway....

RIDE
post #21 of 45
Ride you are high maintenance. Chill!
post #22 of 45
I think it shows a high level of respect for a battery powered amp that people mistake/consider it on the level of a desktop/home amp. You hardly see this happen with other "portable" amps.

Honestly, Triad needs to make a solid desktop amp (Preferably with another name) so the Lisa isn't confused this way.

In any case, the argument is pointless, IMO. Full-size, transportable, portable, the Lisa is like a chameleon, and I think she belongs wherever she turns up.
post #23 of 45
post #24 of 45
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by BIG POPPA View Post
Ride you are high maintenance. Chill!
Excuse me? You need to chill big boy. You don't like my opinion....don't read it.

RIDE
post #25 of 45
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Originally Posted by RIDE View Post
No conflicts indeed

Just looking to hear why the Lisa is listed in the desktop section. I does make it harder for any newer member to search effectively.

Anyway....

RIDE
still no sign of the mods; pretty disappointing really. I wouldnt have thought there was much to think about; the lisa is much more portable than not, only when plugged into the LLP does it become a home amp that you can unplug and take with you. makes me wonder really I agree, it really does make it hard for people to search on it and confusing too for noobs; because its mentioned in the portable section all the time and sits at the top of skylabs review thread and has done since release AFAIK, but to find the impressions thread you have to go to a completely different forum
post #26 of 45
Ride. Just chill. It is just easier for you. I do have a little more experience with the Lisa 3. Please be a good sport.
post #27 of 45
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by BIG POPPA View Post
Ride. Just chill. It is just easier for you. I do have a little more experience with the Lisa 3. Please be a good sport.
It is just easier for me????? What the heck does that mean?

If you are going to tell me what to do........then it will take a little more than 'just chill' to get your message across to me. I don't appreciate your condescending tone.

Are you a mod? If not, then I have as much right to ask a question and share in a dialogue with others.

And experience with something does not automatically guarantee you know what's best. So come out with it...if you care to enlighten me. Otherwise...at this point, the only conclusion I can come to in regards to my question is politics.

RIDE
post #28 of 45
Ride,

It is OK you are a eager Head- Fier. I have spent time with the Triad Lisa III. This is my 2 cents
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LISA III Review by BIG POPPA

by ppl on Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:47 am
The Lisa III is a great piece of audio equipment. It blew me away the first time I listen to it with a pair of Senn 650's and an Ipod listening to Shpongle. The music was so liquid. I was not expecting half as much coming from a portable amp, was very surprised how musically it sounded for the first time. I did not care what the amp looked like or how big it was. I think the phrase I used was "I don't care if it weighed 10 pounds and had to haul a car battery to make it portable." OK, this was my first impression.

Now that I had the opportunity to have a longer audition listening to many sources, headphones, and traveling a bit with it I can give a better opinion of the amp.

I listened to the amp with a couple of Ipods (3 gen and video),Pioneer Inno portable Satellite Radio, portable Zenith DVD Player, and a borrowed Naim CD 5i player.

The headphones I used for this audition were my burned in MS-1's,UM-1's, and Apuresound recabled KSC-75's with a 75 Ohm resistor installed, borrowed HD-25S's, SR225's,and SR325's.

The DVD's I listened to were Pink Floyd "Pulse" and U2 "Rattle and hum"

The reference cd's:

FIONA APPLE "TIDAL"
THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G "LIFE AFTER DEATH"
EZEQUIEL PENA "20 HERRADURAS DE ORO" CD/DVD
LIL' TROY "SITTIN' FAT DOWN SOUTH"
CHAMILLIONAIRE "THE SOUND OF REVENGE"
SIRENS SISTER "ECHOES FROM THE OCEAN FLOOR"
ISRAEL KAMAKAWIWO'OLE "FACING FUTURE"
AKON "KONVICTED"

I listened to a lot more than this, but I also used the cd's to compare the sound of the sources.

The size of the Lisa III is the length of a DVD and the front plate is about the same size of a credit card. The weight of the prototype is about 28 ounces. Yeah it is a little big for portable.If you are looking for something to go in a pocket this is not it. But if you live in the Puget Sound and carry a backpack at all like everybody else you will have no worries. You will forget about the size very quickly.

With the built in rechargeable battery I was told it would last 60+ hours on a charge. I would say that is accurate. You could listen to it a whole weekend on a single charge. When the battery charge goes down the blue led on top of the faceplate will turn off and the volume will be lower and lower, thats it, no distortion. Also,I listen with the wall wart plugged in and out to see if it sounds better plugged in as some amps do and the L3 sounds the same either way. I'm not a fan of rechargeable batteries, never been. The charge was impressive though. I would like to see the charge with some lithiums.

My first initial listening I used my Ipods with a mini to rca cable and my MS-1's. the sound was hit and miss with my Ipods and my initial thought was " what the hell" this sounds like crap. The volume wasn't very loud and my Tomahawk was louder than the L3 with the Ipods. I know what you are thinking.

After a few days listening to the L3 with the Ipods, portable DVD player MS-1's, KSC-75's, and UM-1's I noticed the UM-1's never sounded so good. With the MS-1's listening to Pink Floyd Pulse DVD was good before, with the Lisa III it was like you were almost there. I got lost in the music and I caught myself listening to my favorite songs over and over again.

When I was able to rock out with the Naim CD5i I also listened to some HD 25S's, SR225's and SR325's. I listen to Fiona Apple, Notorious BIG, Ezequiel Pena, Little Troy, Sirens Sister and Chamillionaire. I really liked the SR325's, they can sing! The SR225's were not broke in so they did not really do anything for me. The HD-25S's were nothing special. It ruined closed headphones for me. Notorious BIG and Fiona Apple were the cd's I used to purchase my first Marantz Receiver and my Klipsch speakers in the 90's. "Nortorious Thugs" will always be one of my favorite songs to test drive audio equipment. With the L3 you can listen to all the layers and layers of vocals and the music behind it. There is a lot going on and with the amp you can enjoy every little nuance, every little breath, everything little thing. Fiona Apple is why I bought my Klipsch's. With the right setup she can really sing, with anything else she is just OK. Really nothing special to listen to. She is very intimate with the L3. The vocals are very lush and warm sounding. Very soothing IMO. I am not a big fan of the piano, But I am today. Very natural sounding and just a pure pleasure to listen to. I can go on and on.

OK, enough with the good stuff. This is a great piece of audio equipment but let me tell you what it won't do. It will not fix your crappy sounding Ipod recorded with your whole collection at 128 KB. The Lisa III is just an extension on the music and not a cure all. If you have some CD's that have a less than perfect recording the L3 will let you know. Chamillionaire was one of my favorites until I found out how badly the recording was. Sirens Sister was one of my favorites to test drive with until I noticed the same thing. The Lisa III is very truthful and there will be some who will not like the truth. It was a rude awakening on how bad I let my Ipods go not paying enough attention how my music was downloaded.

What the Lisa III will do is with a good recording and a decent source she will reward you in spades. It does not care what headphones you use or what kind of music you listen to.If it is good then it is good. Find your favorite CD and put it test with the L3. She will not disappoint.

The sound stage was BIG on BIG recordings and not so much on others. It really depends on the music you listen to. The Lisa III can sound real cozy in a Jazz Club or like you have the best seats in the house.

With the exception with the Ipod. You will not think of using any equalization. It sounds perfect out of the box. Very neutral or transparent sounding. I will get on that bandwagon. It is what it is.

The Gain was set at 5. This was not a good match with my Ipod. It needed to be turned up higher just to get comparable volume to the Tomahawk. With everything else it was fine.

The Bass Contour is a class act. It gives you enough bass to help something that may be a little weak to your liking. It will not give you STUPID bass that just goes boom, boom, boom. And it does not distort what so ever. Very Nice Feature.

Final thoughts on the Lisa III. Everybody who came over my house listened to the L3 and ALL of them where blown away. My buddy Jason said " I don't know what this is, but I need one" I am still not a fan of the rechargeable battery. This amp would make me go upgrade everything AGAIN and do I want to go through that hell? ABSOLUTELY. I really want one of these and I know everybody else will too.

ppl Posts: 45Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 7:19 am Top


Ride,

You are getting comfortable with head-fi, GREAT, Just relax and enjoy the RIDE!
post #29 of 45
There's no need to be aggressive about this. As Gil, BIG POPPA said, take a chill pill. If mod agree, they will do as you like.
post #30 of 45
mind you, the formation of "portable amp" subforum is rather recent and mods haven't moved ALL threads about portable amps. That could also contribute for lack of resources in this sub-forum.

Search both forums if you want complete data.
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