Silver plated Copper and Solid Copper
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These are not the same as the last two so comparisons are invalid
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No prob! Glad to help in whatever ways I can. The only cable I could send you is a 3.5mm DIY one that I made just for the exercise/experience in soldering and construction - I highly doubt it'd be useful for testing, but on the off chance it is I'd be willing to send it to you.
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I also don't see spending money on cables as a wise thing to do if other parts of your system need updating. In another thread some guy was evaluating cables with a sound card in his computer. Not very smart. If there are people here who fit into that group of people who purchased equipment in the wrong order then obviously you have put yourself in a situation where you have eliminated some or all of your chances for getting positive results. This is very common for people to spend 100 bucks on a LOD when they could have bought a LD amplifier. That is just an example but you get the meaning. One misconception I ran across in the cable thread was a fellow named Bullseye who was under the impression that people were claiming cables added some sort of sound quality or coloring instead of merely allowing these sonic qualities to pass from your source to your amp. One thing I noticed while building my system is that quick change comparisons reveal nothing as you need to become extremely familiar with your listening material before changing "ONE" piece of equipment to be in a situation to hear a difference. If someone says to me that they listened to their favorite music for 3 months with their system unchanged before they add a tube or cable then I will go out of my way to lend credibility to that persons findings. If someone says I got 2 sets of IC's together and swapped them out repeatedly in one afternoon then I have no interest in his findings as the best you could possibly hope for is being able to find a change at all, but finding the differences and being able to accurately express them? No way. Comments like these I make a point of ignoring, and for this reason I ignore anyone who mentions this type of testing. I believe Nick should have everything he needs to find a difference since he is comparing Silver to Copper. If he doesn't find a difference then I don't have any answers for you aside from there will never be a definitive answer to all this and the best thing for me personally is to use the methodology as described above to evaluated what goes into my system. Too many different people and too many different variables to really nail down a definite answer.
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On the posted samples. All samples have been downloaded multiple times yet nobody has reported back, do I take it that nobody could reliably tell the samples apart ?
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..... One thing I noticed while building my system is that quick change comparisons reveal nothing as you need to become extremely familiar with your listening material before changing "ONE" piece of equipment to be in a situation to hear a difference. If someone says to me that they listened to their favorite music for 3 months with their system unchanged before they add a tube or cable then I will go out of my way to lend credibility to that persons findings. If someone says I got 2 sets of IC's together and swapped them out repeatedly in one afternoon then I have no interest in his findings as the best you could possibly hope for is being able to find a change at all, but finding the differences and being able to accurately express them? No way. Comments like these I make a point of ignoring, and for this reason I ignore anyone who mentions this type of testing.... |

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I managed to correctly identify between tracks X and Y 3 times over about 15 minutes. Anyone else give it a go? I'm using a homemade amp and Sony MDR-SA5000s with the stock cable. I won't say what I thought I heard, as that would ruin it for people who want to try this for themselves.
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And yes, it was Xtr and Ytr. For some reason the A1 recording is predominantly in the left channel and B1 is about even, so I can't compare the two... is it supposed to be like this?
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For clarification, I went 3 for 3 over about 15 minutes, as far as blind-testing myself went. I had to give myself enough time in between so I could "forget" what I heard. I did some informal listening first, but yes, they are VERY similar. I agree that 3/3 isn't very significant, but I'll try again later. I basically stopped because I couldn't take the clanging anymore
And yes, it was Xtr and Ytr. For some reason the A1 recording is predominantly in the left channel and B1 is about even, so I can't compare the two... is it supposed to be like this? |
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IMHO, It's just plain silly to say that.
Small differences can be identified from quick A-B comparisons as well as "it sounds the same." We did this the last NY meet and it has been done by practically everyone here at one time or another after getting a new component. You might not pick up some nuances but for the most part, it is fairly easy to hear differences with A-B compressions. USG |