My cable test enterprise - Page 15

Rather interesting I would have to say.

NF +5 at 8500...hmmm.

Disclaimer: I haven't read the entire 15 pages of posts in this thread yet, so I don't know if anyone has already proved this point with high end cables..

If the entire mid section came forward, that should mean that there must be a clear rise in volume (at least 1db) in a quite large frequency range - and this will be easily measured by the way the starter of this thread did his testing.

Wouldn't it be great to get that confirmed, and have all the sceptics shut up for good?

Tell you what - if you send those cables to the thread starter, and he does indeed find at least 0.5db (Let's assume you have super hearing) change in any frequency range related to the mid section (say anywhere from 500hz to 5000hz), I will personally send you what those cables cost you, regardless if they get lost in the mail or not.

What do you think?

On a sidenote, I would argue that any cable that have a frequency response that deviate more than 0.5db between 20-20,000hz must be seriously flawed - which means any cable that can "be heard" should be thrown away, but I guess that's not the point of the discussion.

This is all from memory because I don't have the V3 headphone cable any longer as I didn't like the way it sounded. I don't remember it adding volume but the sound of the headphones was much different than the OEM cable. Tipped is the best word I can think of to describe what I was hearing. Everything sounded brighter and that also included a reduction in bass weight and impact and the veil in the mids was removed. I don't remember much about the highs as compared to the other cables except it was more clear and detailed. I will send my entire system to Nick including my box of tubes worth about 600 bucks and if he finds a change then will you still want to pay for the equipment? If you want to use my experience as a reference then you will need my equipment. Right?

On a side note, if you guys (not Nick) spend as much time auditioning equipment as you do proving something to each other than you may already have the answers and feel comfortable with your conclusions as I am. I also don't see spending money on cables as a wise thing to do if other parts of your system need updating. In another thread some guy was evaluating cables with a sound card in his computer. Not very smart. If there are people here who fit into that group of people who purchased equipment in the wrong order then obviously you have put yourself in a situation where you have eliminated some or all of your chances for getting positive results. This is very common for people to spend 100 bucks on a LOD when they could have bought a LD amplifier. That is just an example but you get the meaning. One misconception I ran across in the cable thread was a fellow named Bullseye who was under the impression that people were claiming cables added some sort of sound quality or coloring instead of merely allowing these sonic qualities to pass from your source to your amp. One thing I noticed while building my system is that quick change comparisons reveal nothing as you need to become extremely familiar with your listening material before changing "ONE" piece of equipment to be in a situation to hear a difference. If someone says to me that they listened to their favorite music for 3 months with their system unchanged before they add a tube or cable then I will go out of my way to lend credibility to that persons findings. If someone says I got 2 sets of IC's together and swapped them out repeatedly in one afternoon then I have no interest in his findings as the best you could possibly hope for is being able to find a change at all, but finding the differences and being able to accurately express them? No way. Comments like these I make a point of ignoring, and for this reason I ignore anyone who mentions this type of testing. I believe Nick should have everything he needs to find a difference since he is comparing Silver to Copper. If he doesn't find a difference then I don't have any answers for you aside from there will never be a definitive answer to all this and the best thing for me personally is to use the methodology as described above to evaluated what goes into my system. Too many different people and too many different variables to really nail down a definite answer. One question I have and PLEASE don't take this the wrong way and Nick and I are friends and all I want is one simple answer in the continued spirit of the thread that has been going very well. I know nothing about how Nick is testing the cables, it is Latin to me. Is it possible that the same testing run on better (whatever that means) equipment could yield different results?

Please, just a short answer from one person, Nick would be best.

As we all know, a tube amplifier isn't very neutral, so I would expect to see differences in frequency response if we inserted a tube amp in the chain. So no, I'm afraid that wouldn't work.

What wrong, the sound going to be too warm and rich for you? How would you test a V3 headphone cable? How would you set that up?

perhaps one of these?

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No prob! Glad to help in whatever ways I can. The only cable I could send you is a 3.5mm DIY one that I made just for the exercise/experience in soldering and construction - I highly doubt it'd be useful for testing, but on the off chance it is I'd be willing to send it to you.