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post #91 of 141
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Originally Posted by woof37 View Post
If there is a better amp/DAC combo for the D7000 than the Grace M902, I haven't heard it. It's simply sublime. Rock, classical, jazz, you name it, outstanding.
I am snoopy for the Grace m902 - how much is it - and which dealer in recommend in Europe?
post #92 of 141
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Originally Posted by FritzS View Post
I am snoopy for the Grace m902 - how much is it - and which dealer in recommend in Europe?
It's $1500-ish in the US.

Grace Design Dealers
post #93 of 141

dx1000

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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
This is why, for me, it has to be closed cans, except at work. At home, with a 10 and 12 year old about, and for the bedside rig so as not to disturb my sleeping wife, closed cans are an absolute requirement. I do not want to have to turn the volume up to enjoy the music - I am very careful to listen at levels that will not damage my hearing. And at such levels, closed cans are much more satisfying to me.

Sadly, there are only a few great closed cans, versus many great open ones. But at least now with the Denons, there are more than there used to be. I'm still a DX1000 kind of guy, maybe always will be, but the Denon headphones are a welcome addition to the closed headphone world, that's for sure.
id love to here why yoou prefer the dx1000 to the 7000. have you a- b tested them at same time?
---as a 7000 enthusiast im curious of your opinion.. does the price of the dx1000(almost double that of my 7000 i got for 540) justify the sound difference.
is the bass alot tighter and more powerful on the dx1000???
i personally donot think that the hghs of the dx1000 will better the d7000(considering i think hat the d7000 highs are pretty rediculous in a good way, but sadly i have yett o test the dx1000....... they look bulkier than the d7000?
thanks your opinions matters to me and kudos for the in depth pocket amp review which helped me narrow down my search to predator

gear: d7000(i love and will not sell,but their cord sucks) aduio technica at ha25d amp/dac
ue superfi 5 eb, ue triplefi 10vi, predator amp/dac
wrieless- pioneer dhp800, dir800c IR reciever doby amp(love these but are cheap n i broke) sony mdr6000 5.1 ss system(too heevy bulky and make beeping noise, but good overal sound, terible designbut sturdy)
westone 3--i did not like the westone 3 iem(i did ot properly burn them in either) but they did seem very cheap and tangled quite easy, i def prefered the superfi 5 eb overall( they are very underestimated i highly reccomend)maybe um3x is better than um3 who knows......
post #94 of 141

dx1000

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Originally Posted by AtomikPi View Post
The mids are definitely something I would suggest you hear before you buy. I guess in this respect they remind me a bit of AT's in that their midrange is a bit funky. I remember when Moonboy listened to my AD2000's at the last LA meet he said they reminded him of the DX1000's but were more balanced - which is true I think. I don't personally dislike the coloration, but if I were in the market for a good closed can I would buy (and nearly did buy) the D7000 because the DX1000 is a bit too dark and slow (not terribly so, but these are two traits I really dislike) for me. I agree that they have really excellent soundstage (amazingly wide and the best of any closed can I've heard), build quality and comfort - but the sound signature of the denons of powerful bass married with roughly neutral mids and highs is more appealing to me since I listen to a good amount of electronic music.

Here were my initial impressions:
so which did you find had the deeper bass and more powerful bass, the d7000 or the dx1000.... also i have the 7000 and cant imagine the dx1000 highs are better what u think? and is the price difference worthy?
---interesting i was thinking the new hd 800 would have equal to or more bass prowess than my 7000, however people have told me this is not true at all, so finally i can stop thinking about those rediculous looking behemuths...
---oh well off to day dreaming about the edition 9 and dx1000,,now which of those you think has the most powerful bass? also consider the pro 900 and edition 8...
its funny how speculation often leads to bs.

thanks
post #95 of 141
and what of the ad2000 in the comparison as well
post #96 of 141
I always find it interesting that there are more DX1000s in the FS forum than the D7000.
post #97 of 141
I really don't enough recent or long term experience with the D7000 to comment thoroughly on the differences between the DX1000 and the D7000. The D7000 are too low impedance to make a good match with the amps I use the most, so I have never bought a pair, in spite of my having been a big fan of the D5000 I owned for a long time.

I love the DX1000. But they certainly will not be for everyone. You really need to hear a pair. Words won't really help describe what they do so well - I have tried, and I can't get it across.
post #98 of 141
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Originally Posted by K3cT View Post
I always find it interesting that there are more DX1000s in the FS forum than the D7000.
I counted:

> 12 DX1000's sold since 8/15/09

> 11 D7000's sold since 8/15/09

Not so much of a difference, I think.
post #99 of 141
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
I counted:

> 12 DX1000's sold since 8/15/09

> 11 D7000's sold since 8/15/09

Not so much of a difference, I think.
You're probably more right as I only inspected the first page of the search result. Nevertheless, I counted 15 DX1000s and 12 D7000s FS threads if you extend the sampling range to the beginning of July.
post #100 of 141
Also, note that the DX1000 have been out for around 4 years while the D7000 have been out for about 1 year.
post #101 of 141

dx

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Originally Posted by Soundinista View Post
Sorry I’ll have to do this at breakneck speed. Hope it’s not useless to those of you who are flirting with these phones but can’t have both.

I’ve been casually listening to the D7000 since I received it from HeadRoom (from their first batch) in late October. (That’s an audiophile’s “casually”, btw.) I’ve listened mostly to movie soundtracks and concerts on DVD. For this mini-review, I sat down with some of my audiophile-grade CD’s and DVD’s and A-B’d the phones for a couple of hours. This was just a “confirmation” session, as I already was confident that I could rely on my memory of these phones’ sonic traits. So, the review is very rushed – no choice – but the observation is not.

My source is the DAC in the Grace m902. The amp is the RudiStor RPX-33.

To begin with, the D7000 is a significant improvement on the sound of the D5000. There’s nothing subtle about it. The soundstaging is much better, deeper and wider. The highs are sweeter. Not a hint of harshness or aggressiveness. That hint is present in the D5000’s sound, which makes amp’ing these phones a matter of some care. (My Rudi NX-03 is a great match for the D5000 in this regard.) And there’s a little more volume in the mid-bass, which gives the D7000 a little more “bass weight” and better PRaT. It’s slightly better, more realistic, more foot-tapping bass, but not noticeably deeper bass. Now, to put it in perspective, as I see it, the D5000 is one of the best headphones money can buy. Its flaws are minimal. It is much better than the Sennheiser HD650 in every respect, to mention a popular, audiophile-grade model that has been regarded as a reference by many. (Yes, I’ve given the HD650 all the time in the world. It is mediocre when compared to the D5000.) Great job, Denon!

Is it better than my old #1, the DX1000? The D7000 is a little more extended in the highs. The DX1000’s slight treble roll-off – an otherwise subtle characteristic, and a generally welcome one with me – does become apparent when we A-B these phones. The DX1000 is never dull-sounding, never obviously sparkle-shy, but the D7000’s highs are a little better, a tad more natural.

The D7000’s bass is generally better too. It’s a tiny bit tighter, drier and maybe a shade deeper – though the advantage will be insignificant for 99% of what one normally listens to, including organ music and low-frequency effects in soundtracks (but excepting electronica, which I don’t listen to). You’ll have to search high and low for the 1% that reveals the advantage. (I’d have used the Stereophile test CD if I had had the time, but, oh my, that thing is boring and life is brief.)

Now, here’s the clincher: As good as the Denon is, it just can’t match the spectacular soundstaging of the DX1000. The potential for those spooky out-of-head experiences is just greater with the DX1000. Yes, I’ve had some of those heck-the-speakers-are-on type jolts with the D7000, but not as often as with the DX1000. There’s something about the way air moves around voices and instruments, something about the way sounds seem to bounce off the walls and decay that’s so convincing in the way the DX1000 throws its soundstage... It’s a wider, slightly reverberant, life-like, immersive soundstage. It’s the knockout punch for me. It’s why I’d keep the DX1000 if you put a gun to my head and forced me to choose one of them. It’s a photo-finish win for the DX1000, but a definite win.

We’re all curious about the Senn HD800, aren’t we? The well-oiled Sennheiser hype machine has been doing a fantastic job – and I say this with respect for their professionalism. Here’s my request to those who get the chance to audition the new flagship: Please, let us know how it does in the deep bass & PRaT & soundstaging departments. (I already expect it to be excellent SQ-wise elsewhere.) Be as specific as you can. Don’t just tell me it’s much better than the HD650. I’ve known much better than that. And rest assured I hope the HD800 (or the Ultrasone Edition 8, preferably both) proves to be the DX1000 and D7000 killer. I have no allegiances or emotional attachments or financial stake in the matter. I just want the loudest bang for my buck.

Seriously great review,, iam a current d7000 owner, and besides the cable,, they are truly the best sound yet, and i do think its highs are unparalleled, not too mention the bass,, ass a bass connoisseur i was wanting even more.. would the dx1000 delier this? probably not but just in case?
i was contimplating doin an a-b comparison, when dx1000 price drops, i got my d7000 for 550. jusdging from my preferences as loving bass alot, would you reccomend a bass connoisseur like myself the dx1000 over the d7000
i will never sell my d7000,, they make all my music sound so rich and full bodied, and with movies the bass can rattle the temples
outof box the highs were way too high, but after little burn in they tammed abit
post #102 of 141
I'm not sure how adding another closed-back bass-oriented headphone to your arsenal would be helpful really.
post #103 of 141
can u say awesome review, 3 cheers 4 you!
- i plan on a-b compare with these phones in near future and id be happy with your reults, but the fanboy in me wants the denon to win.


--from what ive heard the hd 800 bass is a dissapointment, but no confirmation on that obviously as they cost 1440 and look very awkward
post #104 of 141
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Originally Posted by RockinCannoisseur View Post
can u say awesome review, 3 cheers 4 you!
- i plan on a-b compare with these phones in near future and id be happy with your reults, but the fanboy in me wants the denon to win.


--from what ive heard the hd 800 bass is a dissapointment, but no confirmation on that obviously as they cost 1440 and look very awkward
It's not a disappointment if you like powerful, accurate and fast-hitting bass. In comparison, the bass of D7000 and DX1000 sounds muddied.
post #105 of 141
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Originally Posted by K3cT View Post
It's not a disappointment if you like powerful, accurate and fast-hitting bass. In comparison, the bass of D7000 and DX1000 sounds muddied.
That's because they actually have bass.
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