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post #31 of 141
1/27/09 at 3:09pm
Thanks for the great comparison, I've been waiting for one for a while. As a Denon fan myself, I'm a bit worried about the HD800 bass impact, but no use speculating. I have the HD800's pre-ordered so we'll see soon enough.

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P.S. If you are listening at volumes loud enough for sound to leak OUT of a closed pair of headphones (such as the D5000s) so that someone else in the same room sitting 10 feet away can hear it, then you will not have to worry about headphone isolation for long at all, as you will be deaf soon enough if you continue listening at those volume levels. Trust me on this one, and please heed my warning.
+1 on that lol.
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post #32 of 141
1/27/09 at 3:22pm
it can leak out all it want. But some say it has zero isolation the other way so to speak and sold them even because of that... Do you have flat ears so you get a good mount? I mean it´s wood so the sound that goes in and out should be from the earpads you would think.

Is there anywhere you can check how much isolation different phones has. You haven´t tried for example the A900 or DT 770 PRO. Or Ultrasones of course?

edit: Trying AKG 240M now but they are semi closed it looks like when I think about it. It´s okay while listening to music but it seem to actually enhance the noise when not.
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post #33 of 141
1/27/09 at 5:53pm
As for the Denon phones, Zero isolation is complete and utter B.S. - if someone here claimed that, they are either full of it, or don't know what they're talking about.

The D5000s provide about -10dbs of isolation, the D7000s provide about -8dbs of isolation. As mentioned earlier, -10db is about average for closed phone isolation, where -8db is slightly below average.

You can find isolation ratings for most closed headphones by doing an internet search. Also, Headroom is a good source for finding out isolation ratings on closed phones.



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it can leak out all it want. But some say it has zero isolation the other way so to speak and sold them even because of that... Do you have flat ears so you get a good mount? I mean it´s wood so the sound that goes in and out should be from the earpads you would think.

According to Headroom, the A700s provide about -8db, so I would imagine that the A900s provide about the same amount of isolation. The DT770 PROs offer about

Is there anywhere you can check how much isolation different phones has. You haven´t tried for example the A900 or DT 770 PRO. Or Ultrasones of course?

edit: Trying AKG 240M now but they are semi closed it looks like when I think about it. It´s okay while listening to music but it seem to actually enhance the noise when not.
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post #34 of 141
1/27/09 at 6:00pm
Thanks will check headroom.

Well anyway just screw you guys... I just jumped on a markl modded D5000. The end it all headphone in one way or the other and I have just said that once before lol

It would solve the ev isolation issue the stock D5000 might have I am sure though
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post #35 of 141
1/27/09 at 6:08pm
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Thanks will check headroom.

Well anyway just screw you guys... I just jumped on a markl modded D5000. The end it all headphone in one way or the other and I have just said that once before lol

It would solve the ev isolation issue the stock D5000 might have I am sure though
It is porbably a safe bet that the Markl moded D5000s would provide a few more -dbs of isolation (over a stock pair) due to the Dynamat used on the inside of the earcups.
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post #36 of 141
1/27/09 at 6:12pm
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[...]The D5000s provide about -10dbs of isolation, the D7000s provide about -8dbs of isolation. As mentioned earlier, -10db is about average for closed phone isolation, where -8db is slightly below average.[...]
Imilhan, that's surprising to me. The Denon's seem indistinguishable to me in that regard. In any case, it should be noted that the DX1000 offers much more isolation than the Denon's. Subjectively, at least twice as much. Not perfect isolation, of course, but not insignificant either.

Congrats on getting a D7000!
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post #37 of 141
1/27/09 at 6:26pm
I was getting a D5000 but with all the mods it hopefully sounds like a D7000
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post #38 of 141
1/27/09 at 7:22pm
I wasn't even planning on the D7000 since I recently purchased the D5000. I shoulda known that curiousity would eventually take over.
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post #39 of 141
1/28/09 at 5:14am
in which range did you give the Ultrasonics (pro and edition series) in compare to the AHD7000 and DX1000?
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post #40 of 141
1/28/09 at 7:43pm
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In any case, it should be noted that the DX1000 offers much more isolation than the Denon's. Subjectively, at least twice as much. Not perfect isolation, of course, but not insignificant either.
Indeed. The DX1000's offer a useful amount of isolation which has been a godsend where I use them.
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post #41 of 141
1/31/09 at 4:32pm
Thanks for the review Soundinista

Everyone be careful with this man though, he may be responsible for your bankruptcy

I will definitely upgrade my HD-600 wich are completely maxed out with the Rudistor RPX33 (my review coming soon btw) and the DX1000 are my likely choice mainly because of the 'fun' part. If I want to save some $ probably the D5000 are a great choice. Of course the could of the HD800 is hovering and although 1400$ is a LOT of money.... if they really are the best thing in the world I might loose my head.

cheers everyone
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post #42 of 141
2/4/09 at 7:08pm
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Thanks for the review Soundinista

Everyone be careful with this man though, he may be responsible for your bankruptcy

I will definitely upgrade my HD-600 wich are completely maxed out with the Rudistor RPX33 (my review coming soon btw) and the DX1000 are my likely choice mainly because of the 'fun' part. If I want to save some $ probably the D5000 are a great choice. Of course the could of the HD800 is hovering and although 1400$ is a LOT of money.... if they really are the best thing in the world I might loose my head.

cheers everyone
Responsible for your...bankruptcy? And here I thought I was helping you save money.

NeoVibe, here's my motto nowadays: I'm much too poor to buy cheap stuff!

The D5000 is great value for the money. You'll get all the detail that is there to be had. I've never experienced greater transparency. It's a little "hot" in the low highs, though. The RPX33 does expose that relatively minor flaw. Ironically, the NX-03 is a better match, I think, as it comes close to eliminating the problem -- but at the cost of a somewhat narrower soundstage.

Now, if you must have serious fun, if you must be wow'd, then, yes, the DX1000 is the way to go.

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post #43 of 141
2/5/09 at 6:52am
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Responsible for your...bankruptcy? And here I thought I was helping you save money.

NeoVibe, here's my motto nowadays: I'm much too poor to buy cheap stuff!

The D5000 is great value for the money. You'll get all the detail that is there to be had. I've never experienced greater transparency. It's a little "hot" in the low highs, though. The RPX33 does expose that relatively minor flaw. Ironically, the NX-03 is a better match, I think, as it comes close to eliminating the problem -- but at the cost of a somewhat narrower soundstage.

Now, if you must have serious fun, if you must be wow'd, then, yes, the DX1000 is the way to go.
stop it!

yeah I think there will be a new review for the dx1000 in head-fi soon...
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post #44 of 141
2/18/09 at 5:27am

Now I own the Denon AH-D7000

Now I own the Denon AH-D7000 too

till today I had it only for test from Denon Austria ....
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post #45 of 141
2/18/09 at 7:36am
But you haven's tested it against the DX1000, right?
I believe the DX1000 is more "special", not for everyone's ears, the D7000 should be compatible for the masses
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