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post #16 of 64
1/18/09 at 12:18pm
For a Dollar it should be lossless and DRM free. Why do you think no one ever buys an album from apple, cause they dont want the entire album bad enough to get ripped off, so people buy a greater ratio of songs to albums. Lossless and no DRM and they could sell 12 dollar albums all day long.
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post #17 of 64
1/18/09 at 1:47pm
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Originally Posted by krmathis View Post
Don't see why you blame Apple.
x18. And those damn FM disc jockies and cassette makers. Grrrrr.
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post #18 of 64
1/18/09 at 2:12pm
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Originally Posted by olblueyez View Post
For a Dollar it should be lossless and DRM free. Why do you think no one ever buys an album from apple, cause they dont want the entire album bad enough to get ripped off, so people buy a greater ratio of songs to albums. Lossless and no DRM and they could sell 12 dollar albums all day long.
I think most people don't buy albums because most people are only into 'hit' songs. They buy the popular songs and don't bother with the unpopular songs. Also I don't think that people really care about lossless as long as it's above 200kbps. Everybody I know complains about 128 but then seems to think that above 200 it's the same as lossless. haha.

Anyway Apple is removing DRM and upping quality to 256 so that should make you happier.
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post #19 of 64
1/18/09 at 3:02pm
I think im going to stick with CD's, I find it hard to do buisness with a company that charges money for music and then treats you as though they own it, especially when you pay full price for half ass MP3's. Just makes it clear they dont deserve my buisness.
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post #20 of 64
1/18/09 at 5:20pm
You're still doing business with the labels which is the cause of the problems with online distribution. Blaming Apple is ahistorical.
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post #21 of 64
1/18/09 at 5:49pm
You spend all this money on headphones, DAC's, amps and then you buy stuff from iTunes Music Store?

Buy CD's or records. You'll always have a backup for when your hard drive DOES die and you can listen to it as high res or low res as you want.

iTunes Music Store offers a great product, but I don't think anyone posting here is the target market.
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post #22 of 64
1/18/09 at 7:24pm
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Originally Posted by apatN View Post
Don't get iTunes. Common sense ftw.
It's the best on OS X. Common sense, indeed.

Oh, and I'm not BLAMING Apple for anything, it just seems to me like they should offer everything in better quality. (Which they are...)
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post #23 of 64
1/18/09 at 8:02pm
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Originally Posted by analogbox View Post
It won't be as bad once they start offering lossless formats.
Yes, I can't quite understand why Apple doesn't let us download with a higher bitrate such as Apple Lossless. It seems to me that if they don't start offering high fidelity soon, someone else will.
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post #24 of 64
1/19/09 at 2:53am
i'll stick with CDs and wav files....
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post #25 of 64
1/19/09 at 3:17am
CDs + Flac = win
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post #26 of 64
1/19/09 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by blessingx View Post
You're still doing business with the labels which is the cause of the problems with online distribution. Blaming Apple is ahistorical.
True! Apple sort of handle as a distributor, like any physical record store out there.
...and you have the option of not dealing with them in the first place!

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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post
CDs + Flac = win
CDs + ALAC = win as well..
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post #27 of 64
1/19/09 at 1:08pm
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Originally Posted by davidhunternyc View Post
Yes, I can't quite understand why Apple doesn't let us download with a higher bitrate such as Apple Lossless. It seems to me that if they don't start offering high fidelity soon, someone else will.
There is always a tradeoff between quality, bandwidth, and perceived security.

The labels don't want perfect copies to be easily available online.
The cost of bandwidth for alac/flac files is significantly higher than any compressed format.
The average listener can't discern 128 from cd, let alone the 256 they're selling now.

As a result, people concerned about resolution over convenience will continue to be better served by buying the physical media and then extracting the content to their computer in their preferred method.

If you buy a lot of music, amazon prime quickly pays for itself. You get 2 day shipping, so the convenience factor is only slightly worse, and then you get the actual media to keep as a backup once you've extracted the data.
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post #28 of 64
1/19/09 at 3:29pm
I love iTunes because of its interface w/ iPods and iPhones. Plus it is very intuitive and thus easy to use.

As far as music I prefer to purchase the CD and rip it into iTunes using Apple Lossless.
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post #29 of 64
1/19/09 at 4:05pm
Mark2410, you must be easily manipulated. These people's point is that if there is no customer feed back then no one will improve or do anything about it. People need to voice themselves to not let companies that are in the "business" to give YOU the "business", meaning you get the short end of the stick. That is why there are updates and new models for many products out there. If you are foolish enough to buy something and don't ever expect the company to update or make revisions you are the one who is really losing out. Apple makes enough money to provide better quality and host higher bitrates, they just don't want to cause of the storage space. If enough people make a point of this it may change, if you keep quiet, they will do what they think is according to the public feed back.

Think about it.
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post #30 of 64
1/19/09 at 4:17pm
I don't think that's what is motivating apple. My understanding is they store the files in lossless, and transcode and encrypt the files when they're purchased.
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