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post #61 of 701
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Originally Posted by userlander View Post
Yes, they're pretty laid back.



That wasn't my experience, but I only burned them in for about 48hrs. The graph matches what I heard pretty closely, I think, and matches pretty well what I hear with my grados also.
The AD700 may be laid back compared to Grados but just because they aren't shouty or in your face doesn't mean the AD700 has recessed mids. Many headphones can seem laid back when compared to Grados. There is more to a headphones sound than graphs.
post #62 of 701
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Originally Posted by JayB18 View Post
The AD700 may be laid back compared to Grados but just because they aren't shouty or in your face doesn't mean the AD700 has recessed mids. Many headphones can seem laid back when compared to Grados. There is more to a headphones sound than graphs.
"There's more to headphones than just a graph" -- who said there wasn't?

My experience with the phones matches the graph perfectly. Yours apparently doesn't. That's fine. Those are just more "data points" of comparison, although fwiw my impressions are backed up better by the objective measurements, or that set of objective measures, at least.

Maybe the problem is that you just don't know how to read the graphs? That's not intended as an insult, but just as a matter of fact statement. Are you sure you know what it means when the 1500-6000Hz range is depressed like that, and what that is likely to sound like? That is not exactly a "neutral" presentation, but a diminishment in that frequency range (whatever you want to call that range) that is going to be noticeable from the standpoint of a more neutral sound.

To me it's not a coincidence that my experience of the AD700s and experience of the grados matches the charts perfectly. It's what I would expect to hear, and it's what in fact I do hear. What seems strange to me is someone who hears something different than what the objective measurements show.

My main speakers are extremely neutral, and my computer speakers and other headphones tend slightly toward the brighter side, so it's possible that I am more sensitive to lack of presentation in that range. But that doesn't mean they're not recessed there -- on the contrary, it's just more evidence that in fact they are!
post #63 of 701
I just got a pair of ATH-AD 700's and was wondering if I should do burn-in WITH or WITHOUT an amp. Thanks in advance.
post #64 of 701
No difference !
post #65 of 701
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Originally Posted by Fallensky View Post
I just got a pair of ATH-AD 700's and was wondering if I should do burn-in WITH or WITHOUT an amp. Thanks in advance.
How do you compare your out-of-the-box AD700 and your other cans?
post #66 of 701
yeah i was wondering the same thing.. Burn in with or without amp and with eq or not? Logically it should make a difference.. Say i dont use an amp or eq it would just burn in with better control all around.. If i used a bass boost it should burn in to end up with more bass.. Coz the driver is gettin used to reproducing those frequencies more than it normally does..
post #67 of 701
:|...now your confusing me.

ps: for your soon coming FiiO E5, i suggest getting some shielding lol, mobiles are causing HAVOC x3, atleast i answer mine before it rings
post #68 of 701
Thread Starter 
^ Both burn-in and amps are overrated, especially with the AD700.
post #69 of 701
oh and has anyone tried painting the purple or lavender or whatever to something else like black? Does it affect the sound if you just panted over the purple or would you have to sand off the original colour first and then paint it?
post #70 of 701
well burn in may be a tad overrated but it does change the sound a lil bit.. As for an amp i think the fiio's bass boost will make quite a difference.. How do i shield it?cover it in aluminum foil? i dunno how to shield stuff.. Never done it before.. Lol
post #71 of 701
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Originally Posted by lucky View Post
^ Both burn-in and amps are overrated, especially with the AD700.
Well the headphones did sound tinny at first, dunno how THAT happened.

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Originally Posted by jayeshrc View Post
well burn in may be a tad overrated but it does change the sound a lil bit.. As for an amp i think the fiio's bass boost will make quite a difference.. How do i shield it?cover it in aluminum foil? i dunno how to shield stuff.. Never done it before.. Lol
oh it DOES make a difference, and the highs get lowered a little (about 10%, which is a good thing, OW my ear lol) Rock just sounds more appealing to me now ^-^!

i thought aluminum foil made it worse...lol
post #72 of 701
lol i have on idea abt shieldin man.. And i got 100 for my electronics exam.. :P (of course i didnt learn abt shielding, but still..) i'll ask my dad.. He'll know.
post #73 of 701
i love my AD700s
Needed a little more oomph, so i used my fiio E5. i also did the rubber band "mod" for a bit more of a snugger fit.
post #74 of 701
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Originally Posted by userlander View Post
"There's more to headphones than just a graph" -- who said there wasn't?

My experience with the phones matches the graph perfectly. Yours apparently doesn't. That's fine. Those are just more "data points" of comparison, although fwiw my impressions are backed up better by the objective measurements, or that set of objective measures, at least.

Maybe the problem is that you just don't know how to read the graphs? That's not intended as an insult, but just as a matter of fact statement. Are you sure you know what it means when the 1500-6000Hz range is depressed like that, and what that is likely to sound like? That is not exactly a "neutral" presentation, but a diminishment in that frequency range (whatever you want to call that range) that is going to be noticeable from the standpoint of a more neutral sound.

To me it's not a coincidence that my experience of the AD700s and experience of the grados matches the charts perfectly. It's what I would expect to hear, and it's what in fact I do hear. What seems strange to me is someone who hears something different than what the objective measurements show.

My main speakers are extremely neutral, and my computer speakers and other headphones tend slightly toward the brighter side, so it's possible that I am more sensitive to lack of presentation in that range. But that doesn't mean they're not recessed there -- on the contrary, it's just more evidence that in fact they are!
Maybe im just really sensitive to those frequencies (the sr60 makes my ears hurt after a few minutes even on low volumes) but to me the AD700 only sound slightly recessed there if at all depending on the source. My Sennheiser px100 and RP-15MC definitely sound somewhat recessed in those frequencies, though the overwhelming bass may have something to do with that as well. Overall Id say the AD700's midrange is forward (just maybe not the upper mid/lower treble). There is a nice amount of sparkle around 10000Hz though.
post #75 of 701
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Originally Posted by JayB18 View Post
Maybe im just really sensitive to those frequencies (the sr60 makes my ears hurt after a few minutes even on low volumes) but to me the AD700 only sound slightly recessed there if at all depending on the source. My Sennheiser px100 and RP-15MC definitely sound somewhat recessed in those frequencies, though the overwhelming bass may have something to do with that as well. Overall Id say the AD700's midrange is forward (just maybe not the upper mid/lower treble). There is a nice amount of sparkle around 10000Hz though.
Yeah, I agree -- for me the grados are a little too far in the other direction. They don't hurt my ears necessarily (depending on the volume ), but together with their upfront and direct sound it can be slightly too much. That's why I thought the 700s were going to be *it,* but they just didn't have enough presence for me in those upper midrange frequencies. That band is way preferable to me in the grados over the AD700s, but the grados lose in soundstage by a mile. For me that tends to produce too much fatigue -- I just seem to prefer that more open or wider/fuller sound. Maybe you're right that it's more source dependent than it would seem even on these relatively easy to drive phones.

I've been hoping to find out that the AD900s fill the gap, but based on reading so far I'm just not sure yet. But if they have more in that upper-mid/higher low range (whatever it's called -- that 1k-6k range is what I'm talking about) I think those could turn out to be nearly the perfect phones. Still researching, but again don't get me wrong: I think the AD700s are a good headphone, for me they just ever so slightly missed the mark.
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