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post #2716 of 4148
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Originally Posted by csh08 View Post
I am having an issue with my D10.

I am using my 743 Topkit D10 as a DAC to drive my TTVJ FET-A. Input is via either USB or optical from M-Audio Transit from FooBar2000. When I use the headphone out the bass is distorted. When I use the line out the sound is crisp and clear.

I have checked all my connections.

The D10 sound is also fine when I listen to the amp into headphones.
If the input levels are high then the headphone-out's volume level can be too high to use high-gain at max volume when feeding another amp. SO, if you feed the headphone out into an amp, instead of the line out, don't go max volume on the D10 and that should fix it. Or, only use line-out to drive another amp.
post #2717 of 4148
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
If the input levels are high then the headphone-out's volume level can be too high to use high-gain at max volume when feeding another amp. SO, if you feed the headphone out into an amp, instead of the line out, don't go max volume on the D10 and that should fix it. Or, only use line-out to drive another amp.
Turning down the volume on the headphone-out does fix the issue, thanks (I have been using low gain in any case). I believe I am hearing stronger highs from the headphone out than the line out, which match the FET-A better, but still testing to confirm.

Given the response from wuwhere regarding the different nature of the output from the headphone and line out is there any reason not to use the headphone out to feed another amp?
post #2718 of 4148
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Originally Posted by csh08 View Post
Turning down the volume on the headphone-out does fix the issue, thanks (I have been using low gain in any case). I believe I am hearing stronger highs from the headphone out than the line out, which match the FET-A better, but still testing to confirm.

Given the response from wuwhere regarding the different nature of the output from the headphone and line out is there any reason not to use the headphone out to feed another amp?
If it sounds better without adding distortion or taking away detail or messing up the frequency response, then go for it!

For over a year I had to use my Pico DAC/amp to feed my Woo GES stat amp out of the headphone jack, as a DAC/Preamp; and it sounded better that way than with many headphones plugged into the headphone jack.
post #2719 of 4148
wow noob city in here

also the lineout doesnt always have output caps and HP out passes through an op-amp I/V stage (with DC offset filtering caps)
post #2720 of 4148
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Originally Posted by qusp View Post
wow noob city in here
Yep, gotta start somewhere. Thanks to all for the advice.

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..also the lineout doesnt always have output caps and HP out passes through an op-amp I/V stage (with DC offset filtering caps)
Does this mean that the line out is not impacted when the op-amps are rolled?
post #2721 of 4148
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Originally Posted by csh08 View Post
Yep, gotta start somewhere. Thanks to all for the advice.



Does this mean that the line out is not impacted when the op-amps are rolled?

The Line-out will also reflect the opamp SQ differences when rolling different opamps, but there will likely still be some very slight differences in sound between the Headphone out and the Line-out.

Line-out is a constant level output, and is not affected by the position of the volume control. All things being equal, the "purest" output would be from Line-out, but typically this is only used when feeding the DAC output to another amp or other downstream device.
post #2722 of 4148
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Originally Posted by HiFlight View Post
The Line-out will also reflect the opamp SQ differences when rolling different opamps, but there will likely still be some very slight differences in sound between the Headphone out and the Line-out.

Line-out is a constant level output, and is not affected by the position of the volume control. All things being equal, the "purest" output would be from Line-out, but typically this is only used when feeding the DAC output to another amp or other downstream device.
I must admit I havent studied the circuit at all (not that its really my forte anyway) and have been using the same opamps for ages now; only did any 'listening' to the op-amps via HP out. hmm I had thought that the L/O would be taken off the dac, with DC caps and no amp stage. interesting. so the BG mod will indeed effect the SQ when using as dac only with Lisa; cool I was expecting only to get benefit from the caps (other than the power rail upgrade) when running as dac/amp. hehe; I wondered why the burn-in was so erratic with D10 LOL. might have had something to do with rolling op-amps in the first few months. I didnt have it burning 24/7, just used it and burned in as I went.
post #2723 of 4148
I'm having a problem here.. I've got a D10 here with AD743 OBCA/EL8201 and it's hissing at low gain with my SE530. Anyone know what's going on?

edit. WRONG! my bad, it's a AD744OBCA
post #2724 of 4148
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I'm having a problem here.. I've got a D10 here with AD743 OBCA/EL8201 and it's hissing at low gain with my SE530. Anyone know what's going on?
Does is hiss with no source attached?
post #2725 of 4148
Yep So it's definitely the opamp.. Tried the stock buffers, no change. With the upgraded buffers and stock opamp it doesn't hiss, and complete stock D10 also doesn't hiss.
post #2726 of 4148

Burn-in changes

Has someone already documented the changes that occur within 300 hours of burning the D10 in? Sorry 150+ pages is WAY to much to look over! What would you guys describe as the changes that gradually occur in a 300 hour period of burn-in with the D10?
post #2727 of 4148
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Bonthouse View Post
Yep
Try it with no source plugged in. If you get hiss then it is the D10 if no hiss, it is coming from your source.
post #2728 of 4148
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Nuge View Post
Has someone already documented the changes that occur within 300 hours of burning the D10 in? Sorry 150+ pages is WAY to much to look over! What would you guys describe as the changes that gradually occur in a 300 hour period of burn-in with the D10?
Do a search on "this thread" for burn in and you will get many hits on the subject.
post #2729 of 4148
I meant yes, as in, it also hisses when there's no source is attached
post #2730 of 4148
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Bonthouse View Post
I meant yes, as in, it also hisses when there's no source is attached
Did it hiss with stock opamps?
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