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post #91 of 5818
Street will not be $1,400. The HD-650 MSRP is around $600; I bought mine for $325. If these go around $800-$1,000, I'll order.

Any word on the HD-680? At this price, the HD-800 isn't going to replace the HD-650. It would make sense to have a product refresh with new styling to match the HD-800.

That angled driver ad copy sure sounds like the K-1000, doesn't it?
post #92 of 5818
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Street will not be $1,400. The HD-650 MSRP is around $600; I bought mine for $325. If these go around $800-$1,000, I'll order.
$325 is far too good a deal for the HD650, that's more like the price for the HD600. You know how Sennheiser works, they'll charge an unreasonable pentium outside of europe...
post #93 of 5818
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That angled driver ad copy sure sounds like the K-1000, doesn't it?
It looks exactly like the Sony SA5000's angle:

post #94 of 5818
Thanks for the impressions Jude. It seems like I chose a good moment to come back to browse Head-Fi after a few busy months. And I wasn't aware that they were coming at CES (or even when CES was taking place for that matter). Maybe a sixth sense...

Any word on impedance and efficiency? I'm curious about how demanding these headphones are. The qualias show quite amount of detail and sound pretty good unamped and I was wondering if that would be the case with these cans too.

Great news regardless, anyway.
post #95 of 5818
It look so hi-tech! I hope it sound less bass boomy and more sweet and airly mid and hi.
post #96 of 5818
thanks for impression.. and waiting for the extensive review.
post #97 of 5818
Krmathis from Oslo called the HD800 announcement along with an HD680 yesterday...along with Towert7. Good call.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f45/ce...99/index2.html
post #98 of 5818
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Originally Posted by scytheavatar View Post
$325 is far too good a deal for the HD650, that's more like the price for the HD600. You know how Sennheiser works, they'll charge an unreasonable pentium outside of europe...
But jr.com has the HD-650s for $320, free shipping too! Sucks to be in Canada, tacks on an extra $45 worth of shipping.
post #99 of 5818
Krmathis from Oslo called the HD800 announcement along with an HD680 yesterday... as well as Towert7. Good call.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f45/ce...99/index2.html
post #100 of 5818
Krmathis from Oslo called the HD800 announcement along with an HD680 yesterday... as well as Towert7

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f45/ce...99/index2.html
post #101 of 5818
Alright. You all know you wouldn't think it was me talking if i joined the love fest with the rest of you.

Reading that ad copy - how on earth can the driver be the only one of it's kind AND the largest of it's kind? I thought germans didn't make logical errors like that.

Do they mean that 56mm is the largest dynamic driver in a high-end headphone? They'd be right - by 1mm. Big flippin deal.

The driver is a little interesting, but only a little. It's a dome driver with a big coil and two rolls. By 'roll' i mean the donut. There's two of 'em. Which is a little interesting because it solves the problem of controlling that big dome when you have a big coil diameter.

Aside from that the geometry isn't very interesting. The outer roll actually shouts "AKG K500" to me.

Big magnet diameters and big coil diameters aren't new. Neither is realizing the importance of the roll. Take a look at any of the big high-end dynamic drivers of the last 15 years.

I'm still interested in learning more about the geometry - like I'm curious what the interface is between the inner roll and the dome or non-dome at the center of the driver is. Did they tack it down in the middle? That would be kinda interesting. Maybe that's what they mean by 'ring driver' - a dome driver where the designer has said "You know, I really like the roll. I like the roll so much that I'm gonna try to live without that dome in the middle".

It's at most an evolutionary - not revolutionary step. And some evolutionary steps lead into pointless cul-de-sacs. Obviously I've never heard this driver before so i don't know if it's a winner or not. But I'm a skeptical enough guy to believe that Sennheiser knew they were taking a chance when they made that decision.

If it does turn out to be revolutionary, it won't be long before others follow suit - just like they did when someone at Sennheiser decided to try running a signal into a dynamic dome mic in the sixties.

So, it's an SA5k with a big weird driver. Maybe it's a really good big weird driver.

I look forward to hearing it at a meet some day. I won't be buying anything like this in the first 18 months it's on the market. If i ever did buy something like this, it would be long after i buy an O2.

You may now resume your orgy. The wet blanket is done.
post #102 of 5818
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Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
Any word on impedance and efficiency? I'm curious about how demanding these headphones are. The qualias show quite amount of detail and sound pretty good unamped and I was wondering if that would be the case with these cans too.

Great news regardless, anyway.
As far as impedance goes, 300 Ω. Printed in the headphones, take a closer look here: Flickr Photo Download: Sennheiser HD 800 headphones
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post #104 of 5818
So when are these things supposed to be released?
post #105 of 5818
They look like SA5000's.

And from Judes (very good) listening impressions, they sound like they're a Sennheiser version of AD2000's.
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