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Using HD800 with mojo right now, sounds a bit polite but super smooth and good resolution biggrin.gif.
post #5867 of 5885

I have heard that there is a new model for sale now, which is the inheritor of HD800.

post #5868 of 5885
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Originally Posted by richardfugh View Post
 

I have heard that there is a new model for sale now, which is the inheritor of HD800.

And there is a new thread, also started by Jude, to go with the new headphone:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/785577/sennheiser-hd800s-unveiled

post #5869 of 5885

Sennheiser's HD 800 - You nailed it Sennheiser!

 

I'd like to clear a few things before you read the review.

 

1. Sennheiser India was kind enough to lend me their HD 800 for a home demo, for an undetermined length of time. Knowing fully well that I won't be buying them. As I can't afford them at this point in time. So I'd like to thank you Sennheiser India for this kind gesture. 

 

2. The demo unit is a piece from 2009. One of the first 250 HD 800 headphones that Sennheiser built. So it is the old version. And doesn't need more burn in either. 

 

3. You'll be disappointed to know that most of the review was done with the Sonarworks Headphone Plugin. SW is a VST plugin that corrects the headphone's frequency curve to bring it as close to neutral as possible. I also enabled the Linear Phase option in SW alongside. 

 

4. The reason for doing this was because in its stock form, the HD 800 was way too bright. And coming from the HD 650 I was unable to adjust. Nevertheless, the HD 800's sound fantastic even with SW enabled. 

 

The Test Setup

 

Headphones - HD 800 (old), HD 650 (2013 - silver), HD 700 - All burned in heavily due to their age.

 

Amplifier - Project Ember Hybrid Tube Amp by Garage1217.com (with supercharger) -> Sylvania 6SN7WGT

 

DAC - Asus Essence One Muses Edition

 

Software - JRiver with Sonarworks for HD 800, HD 650 and HD 700 (HD 800 setting)

 

Music - Recent Bollywood

 

Now. 

 

You should get ready to read the review. :)   

 

REVIEW

 

Long story short, you'll be delighted to know the HD 800 blows away both the HD 650 and HD 700. 

 

The HD 800 is clearer, cleaner, faster, more detailed, has much less distortion and just better all around. 

 

In comparison, the HD 650 sounds ***led and distorted. It almost seems like a toy compared to the HD 800. Now. You may not like to hear this. But this is indeed the truth. 

 

The only advantage the HD 650 has over the HD 800 is that it is a touch more musical and lusher. But the HD 800 is plain and simple better. And so much better than you'll never touch the HD 650 if you buy the HD 800 once. 

 

After hearing the HD 800 for a few days, I'm finding it really hard to go back to the HD 650. 

 

You name it. Breaking through congested passages. A larger soundstage. Better sound isolation. The HD 800 nails it nearly every time. 

 

Even with SW, the HD 800 is a bit brighter than the HD 650. But no big deal. Without Sonarworks, yes, you'll find it hard to listen to the HD 800 if you're not used to a bright sound. 

 

But that too has perhaps been fixed in the 2013 revision of the HD 800, perhaps. 

 

Anyway, both headphones were used with Sonarworks. 

 

And there isn't much of a contest. 

 

You should take the HD 800 over the HD 650 for anything and everything. For all types of music. 

 

Comfort

 

HD 700 >= HD 800 >> HD 650

 

Both the HD 700 and HD 800 are very comfortable. The HD 650 isn't in the same league. Although it is pretty comfortable on its own. 

 

Mids

 

HD 800 is cleaner and clearer. HD 650 is lusher. But HD 800 is in a different league altogether due to its lower distortion. 

 

Treble

 

HD 650 has recessed treble. 


HD 800 has forward treble. 


With Sonarworks, I prefer the HD 650's treble over the HD 800's treble. But only because the HD 800 is still brighter. It is still better in every other way. 

 

Bass

 

Again, HD 800 has less bass. But better bass. You know that!

 

Soundstage

 

The HD 800 feels like it has a 50-100% bigger SS as compared to the HD 650. 

 

Everything else

 

The HD 800 is clearly a big step up. 

 

To wrap it up

 

I'd even say if they could take care of the bright treble of the old HD 800, it would be perfect. 

 

The HD 800 deserves to be priced 3-5x the HD 650. IMO. Your mileage may vary. 

 

And the above impression hasn't been formed over 10 minutes. Initially, I was a bit disappointed. But having heard the HD 800 for a while, going back to the 650 was shocking. 

 

There is a big difference!

 

I recommend the HD 800 wholeheartedly. To everyone. 

 

P.S. HD 700 vs HD 650 review- 
http://akshaytalwar.blogspot.in/2016/03/sennheiser-hd-700-sennheisers-queen-in.html

 

Source:
http://akshaytalwar.blogspot.in/2016/04/sennheisers-hd-800-you-nailed-it.html


Edited by techboy - 5/7/16 at 12:26am
post #5870 of 5885

@techboy  

I am not familiar with sonarworks..could you post the frequencies/Q factor/db amount of the EQ?  HD800 on my list soon.  Have the 600 currently as my main headphone while tied to a laptop.  (very happy with the 600 btw).

 

Bern

Quote:

Originally Posted by techboy View Post
 

Sennheiser's HD 800 - You nailed it Sennheiser!

 

I'd like to clear a few things before you read the review.

 

1. Sennheiser India was kind enough to lend me their HD 800 for a home demo, for an undetermined length of time. Knowing fully well that I won't be buying them. As I can't afford them at this point in time. So I'd like to thank you Sennheiser India for this kind gesture. 

 

2. The demo unit is a piece from 2009. One of the first 250 HD 800 headphones that Sennheiser built. So it is the old version. And doesn't need more burn in either. 

 

3. You'll be disappointed to know that most of the review was done with the Sonarworks Headphone Plugin. SW is a VST plugin that corrects the headphone's frequency curve to bring it as close to neutral as possible. I also enabled the Linear Phase option in SW alongside. 

 

4. The reason for doing this was because in its stock form, the HD 800 was way too bright. And coming from the HD 650 I was unable to adjust. Nevertheless, the HD 800's sound fantastic even with SW enabled. 

 

The Test Setup

 

Headphones - HD 800 (old), HD 650 (2013 - silver), HD 700 - All burned in heavily due to their age.

 

Amplifier - Project Ember Hybrid Tube Amp by Garage1217.com (with supercharger) -> Sylvania 6SN7WGT

 

DAC - Asus Essence One Muses Edition

 

Software - JRiver with Sonarworks for HD 800, HD 650 and HD 700 (HD 800 setting)

 

Music - Recent Bollywood

 

Now. 

 

You should get ready to read the review. :)   

 

REVIEW

 

Long story short, you'll be delighted to know the HD 800 blows away both the HD 650 and HD 700. 

 

The HD 800 is clearer, cleaner, faster, more detailed, has much less distortion and just better all around. 

 

In comparison, the HD 650 sounds ***led and distorted. It almost seems like a toy compared to the HD 800. Now. You may not like to hear this. But this is indeed the truth. 

 

The only advantage the HD 650 has over the HD 800 is that it is a touch more musical and lusher. But the HD 800 is plain and simple better. And so much better than you'll never touch the HD 650 if you buy the HD 800 once. 

 

After hearing the HD 800 for a few days, I'm finding it really hard to go back to the HD 650. 

 

You name it. Breaking through congested passages. A larger soundstage. Better sound isolation. The HD 800 nails it nearly every time. 

 

Even with SW, the HD 800 is a bit brighter than the HD 650. But no big deal. Without Sonarworks, yes, you'll find it hard to listen to the HD 800 if you're not used to a bright sound. 

 

But that too has perhaps been fixed in the 2013 revision of the HD 800, perhaps. 

 

Anyway, both headphones were used with Sonarworks. 

 

And there isn't much of a contest. 

 

You should take the HD 800 over the HD 650 for anything and everything. For all types of music. 

 

Comfort

 

HD 700 >= HD 800 >> HD 650

 

Both the HD 700 and HD 800 are very comfortable. The HD 650 isn't in the same league. Although it is pretty comfortable on its own. 

 

Mids

 

HD 800 is cleaner and clearer. HD 650 is lusher. But HD 800 is in a different league altogether due to its lower distortion. 

 

Treble

 

HD 650 has recessed treble. 


HD 800 has forward treble. 


With Sonarworks, I prefer the HD 650's treble over the HD 800's treble. But only because the HD 800 is still brighter. It is still better in every other way. 

 

Bass

 

Again, HD 800 has less bass. But better bass. You know that!

 

Soundstage

 

The HD 800 feels like it has a 50-100% bigger SS as compared to the HD 650. 

 

Everything else

 

The HD 800 is clearly a big step up. 

 

To wrap it up

 

I'd even say if they could take care of the bright treble of the old HD 800, it would be perfect. 

 

The HD 800 deserves to be priced 3-5x the HD 650. IMO. Your mileage may vary. 

 

And the above impression hasn't been formed over 10 minutes. Initially, I was a bit disappointed. But having heard the HD 800 for a while, going back to the 650 was shocking. 

 

There is a big difference!

 

I recommend the HD 800 wholeheartedly. To everyone. 

 

P.S. HD 700 vs HD 650 review- 
http://akshaytalwar.blogspot.in/2016/03/sennheiser-hd-700-sennheisers-queen-in.html

 

Source:
http://akshaytalwar.blogspot.in/2016/04/sennheisers-hd-800-you-nailed-it.html

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No idea about the FR graph.
post #5872 of 5885
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Originally Posted by techboy View Post

No idea about the FR graph.

Thanks...I did some reading up on it.

 

Does 1 license cover multiple headphones?  (example...using their presets for both the HD600 and 800).

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Edited by Allanmarcus - 5/8/16 at 5:51pm
post #5874 of 5885
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Originally Posted by Bern2 View Post

Thanks...I did some reading up on it.

Does 1 license cover multiple headphones?  (example...using their presets for both the HD600 and 800).

Yes. But there is no profile for the HD 600.
post #5875 of 5885
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Originally Posted by techboy View Post


Yes. But there is no profile for the HD 600.

They must have recently added it.....

post #5876 of 5885

Has anybody used these with a Lyr 2?


Edited by Kodhifi - 5/13/16 at 11:11am
post #5877 of 5885

Is it too late to join the party?

post #5878 of 5885

Looks beautiful.

post #5879 of 5885

As much as these get on my nerves for being so source dependent as they are.....They sure are good

post #5880 of 5885

beautiful

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