The Sennheiser HD 800: The First Listen, The First Review - Page 101

Thanks - I got the match drivers by hand and deviation in frequency response posts mixed up. I wonder what the K-1000 is - it pretty much looks ruler flat

Drew, you should have challenged him to an "arm wrestle" and taken care of it like a man's man

It could have been coined "The Harrison Houligan's Hardcore Throwdown".

I feel it should be interjected here, that if you want to bash an aftermarket cable maker, it might be best done in an alternate thread.

Maybe someone who is dissatisfied with his approach or wording, could write him, and request a scientific opinion in response to his remarks. I wouldn't want this turning into another VD/Cat thread (although that, was quite informative and fun).

There was a thread in which someone who took apart one of Stephan Arts Equinox cable, found it to be less than desireable in build quality. Since then, it seems that their cables have improved tenfold from the experience.

Don't forget, a manufacturer can charge anything they want for their wares (I should know, my wife works for Lord & Taylor), but it doesn't force anyone who doesn't like it to buy it.

It can be said the the 800's should only cost $800, but as I've said B4, we're so starved for a new high end toy, these cans are going to sell like hotcakes (whatever that means).

I'm sure he didn't mean to while he was in a rush to setup, but I was shocked when he didn't even say sorry when I mentioned it to him.



Thankfully it was only 1400$ worth of equipment in the bag. Doubly thankful it was a good bag!

^_^
Never in a million years would I have expect that response!

I checked both lenses and the camera, and everything seemed to work, so I just went on with my day and had fun. No sense in letting a little thing get my spirits down.

Unbelievable. I'm honestly shocked they had the gall to type that on their website, more so than their absurd $1400 price.

100% agree. It's pretty funny that some of the most respected ears on Head-Fi thought the 800 sounded pretty incredible with the stock cable. I wonder what they are smoking at SAA. These types of idiotic statments can only hurt business.

Is that a positive or negative comment?

$1400? That's nothing. I've heard rumors that there's a new cable on the scene that costs that much

A neutral statement. I did laugh when I read it though, so maybe that makes it a positive comment.

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1400 bucks cable......

But the driver is much larger than regular drivers.

But as the diaphragm gets larger you have the problem of the diaphragm deforming as it moves and not acting like a piston (it's explained on the Sennheiser website HERE).

Having a ring diaphragm, you avoid these problems and still move a lot of air. So you get the quality and minimise distortions due to diaphragm break-up.

Why don't they make speakers like so?

With all due respect to the moderator...I don't think anyone is bashing the folks over at SAA but rather, questioning their marketing approach. After all, they are the ones that bashed the product that they are attempting to use to sell their own product. This is an approach that is strange. Kinda like saying that the highly accredited mercedes that you just purchased won't be any good without a specially scientifically applied paint finish. In some ways I understand what SAA is trying to do but I question their approach/wording and with a 1400.00 tag for their wares, they ought to think very carefully about their approach, IMHO.

And it is always easier to improve on perfection than it is to create it so, please create an equation for me that justifies the pricetag of the SAA Voice...I am a reasonable consumer and would like to see a very detailed video from SAA on the R & D and Manufacturing concepts, etc that brings to market this amazing addition to the HD800.

I actually do not have any problem with their price tag at all. They have the right to charge whatever they want. It is quite understandable that they cost what they do, since they obviously had to pay their conceptualist / lead designer's roundtrip around the world to collect the "finest" materials, along with his two year program of research to make this cable. I actually wonder how they only can charge $1400. No, that is not the problem. The problem I am having, is what they write in their description, especially about the stock HD800 cable, and how they know that their cable will be so much better. Also, what they write is quite the contrary from the information at Sennheiser's site. That means, one of them must be giving out false information.

This new "ultra high end" cable seem to have a lot of innovative features though, such as "Channel matching with lowest capacitance available", and "Ultra-light material tuned structure".
And finally, "Lightest, quietest most comfortable headphone cable available". It seems like their two year program finally fixed the issue of the Equinox microphonics. Good job!

Oh well, back to the HD800 shall we?

I wonder as well why they had to put the picture of another headphone with their replacement hd800 cable and hide their connectors if they really had the hd800 to test and compare with their cable.

Is the stock cable of HD800 as flexible as the stock cable of HD650 ?