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Originally Posted by Destroysall View Post


That's an awesome setup you got there.  I think laptops are starting to become just as powerful as desktops these days.  So there is hardly any con to having a laptop nowadays instead of a desktop.



 


Thanks and agreed! Desktops can still destroy laptops in gaming for MUCH cheaper, but that was never a big area for me. Processing speed, storage and a heap of ram is all I care about.

 



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Laptops cost more to manufacture because of the smaller size, and this cost plus more just for the convenience of portability is passed down to the consumer. Plus, you can't do much besides upgrade RAM and hard drive on a laptop, the rest is machine done at the factory.



Yup, you pay for your portability. More so in the upper ranges. But for what it gives me (the ability to have everything I need for work/fun with me wherever I go) its worth the price personally. The ease it gives me in my everyday life is well worth a 2.2k price tag.


Edited by nmxdaven - 2/3/12 at 4:05pm

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Yeah if I had the money, I'd get a great laptop to replace my desktop. Maybe a MacBook (Air or Pro). I'm not an Apple lover, but no longer a hater. I feel that their price/performance ratio has improved greatly. I still dislike iOS but Macs are ok, just don't fit me. I don't like using a mouse for everything seemingly, but that's probably because I don't know the keyboard shortcuts. I'd use Win7 on one if I was sure performance would be as good since it is emulated after all.
 

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Thanks and agreed! Desktops can still destroy laptops in gaming for MUCH cheaper, but that was never a big area for me. Processing speed, storage and a heap of ram is all I care about.

 



Yup, you pay for your portability. More so in the upper ranges. But for what it gives me (the ability to have everything I need for work/fun with me wherever I go) its worth the price personally. The ease it gives me in my everyday life is well worth a 2.2k price tag.



 

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Originally Posted by jtaylor991 View Post

Yeah if I had the money, I'd get a great laptop to replace my desktop. Maybe a MacBook (Air or Pro). I'm not an Apple lover, but no longer a hater. I feel that their price/performance ratio has improved greatly. I still dislike iOS but Macs are ok, just don't fit me. I don't like using a mouse for everything seemingly, but that's probably because I don't know the keyboard shortcuts. I'd use Win7 on one if I was sure performance would be as good since it is emulated after all.
 



 


I dont mind apple. I like their niche products and the fact that they are linux based, but their profit margins are still quite high. Spec for spec if I wanted an apple laptop with the same abilities as mine (which doesnt exist) im sure it would cost me 7k.

 

The air's are pretty nifty however for an ultra portable. One of our employes brings his to the office everyday along with his work laptop. Seeing them side by side is amazing. You could stack 4 airs on top of eachother and still not be as thick as his toshiba.

 


Edited by nmxdaven - 2/3/12 at 6:43pm
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On that note, is really mac needs to come down on their pricing. A baseline of $1000? Thats a bit much. And really to get one to any usefullness you gotta add a few little features that bring it up 200$. 

 

If i were to ever buy a laptop for 400$ i think id have to just quit. Idk about you guys but id never get rid of my laptop, my desktop is just so large and spacey, and great for gaming. 

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On that note, is really mac needs to come down on their pricing. A baseline of $1000? Thats a bit much. And really to get one to any usefullness you gotta add a few little features that bring it up 200$. 

 

If i were to ever buy a laptop for 400$ i think id have to just quit. Idk about you guys but id never get rid of my laptop, my desktop is just so large and spacey, and great for gaming. 



Why?

 

Apple is a business, a very successful one at that, who prices things as they see fit and consumers are obviously willing to pay the price so why lower it? That makes no business sense.

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Deathdeisel View Post

On that note, is really mac needs to come down on their pricing. A baseline of $1000? Thats a bit much. And really to get one to any usefullness you gotta add a few little features that bring it up 200$. 

 

If i were to ever buy a laptop for 400$ i think id have to just quit. Idk about you guys but id never get rid of my laptop, my desktop is just so large and spacey, and great for gaming. 


I'm piecing together parts from your horrid post.

You're ridiculously misguided. Some people prefer having a laptop to a computer, and I can clearly see when it would come in handy as a student. My T420 can handle everything I need at the moment, but I have a desktop for my gaming needs. If someone doesn't have a desktop, having a powerful laptop is the next best thing. And $1200 isn't shabby to get a full body aluminum laptop with a good specs, good battery life and an amazing display.

Also, "idk never get rid of my laptop" and "if i were to ever buy a laptop for 400$ i think id have to quit." Well, it seems like you should just quit now, because your writing is terrible and your logic is non-existent.

Sure, I would like if Apple dropped the prices, but the MBP priced slightly above average with everything else Apple has on it.


Depending on how it goes, my next laptop will probably be a macbook.
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Can I suggest we nip this Apple argument in the bud? 

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I'm piecing together parts from your horrid post.
You're ridiculously misguided. Some people prefer having a laptop to a computer, and I can clearly see when it would come in handy as a student. My T420 can handle everything I need at the moment, but I have a desktop for my gaming needs. If someone doesn't have a desktop, having a powerful laptop is the next best thing. And $1200 isn't shabby to get a full body aluminum laptop with a good specs, good battery life and an amazing display.
Also, "idk never get rid of my laptop" and "if i were to ever buy a laptop for 400$ i think id have to quit." Well, it seems like you should just quit now, because your writing is terrible and your logic is non-existent.
Sure, I would like if Apple dropped the prices, but the MBP priced slightly above average with everything else Apple has on it.
Depending on how it goes, my next laptop will probably be a macbook.

I think one of the greatest advantages of a desktop is that I can have three massive screens, a mechanical keyboard and a super nice mouse. I also have a laptop (a 13" macbook) but I hardly ever use it, only during school, but even that use will decrease once I have my tablet phone (Galaxy Note).
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Originally Posted by Blisse View Post


I'm piecing together parts from your horrid post.
You're ridiculously misguided. Some people prefer having a laptop to a computer, and I can clearly see when it would come in handy as a student. My T420 can handle everything I need at the moment, but I have a desktop for my gaming needs. If someone doesn't have a desktop, having a powerful laptop is the next best thing. And $1200 isn't shabby to get a full body aluminum laptop with a good specs, good battery life and an amazing display.
Also, "idk never get rid of my laptop" and "if i were to ever buy a laptop for 400$ i think id have to quit." Well, it seems like you should just quit now, because your writing is terrible and your logic is non-existent.
Sure, I would like if Apple dropped the prices, but the MBP priced slightly above average with everything else Apple has on it.
Depending on how it goes, my next laptop will probably be a macbook.


Okay im sorry for making a non explained post. I was saying if i were to have to buy a laptop for 400$, there would be so many little nit pick addons and options, that I couldnt easily do it, because I would want too many expensive little things on it. Not because they arent good or decent computers, just because it would slightly kill me inside. 

 

I did just notice i misplaced laptop in for desktop, so the statement should have been as follows: "Idk about you guys but id never get rid of my desktop, it is just so large, spacey, and great for gaming. "

 

I never said laptops werent useful, noone is saying that. While the 1000$ baseline of mac's computers is steep, I understand why it starts there, id just really prefer to have a cheaper base model. It would be nice to be able to put some time in with the Mac OS without taking such a huge investment. 

 

To mktversion's post, again my reasoning would be maybe some new users would be involved, gaining fanboys and whatnot as there obviously is on this thread.

And to increase sales a bit, again I understand why their prices are high, but maybe they could compromise a few features for a cheaper baseline, thats all i was suggesting. 

Ive only spent maybe 30minutes with the MacOS, and few people i know have them, let alone are willing to let me borrow them for any extended time. 

 

No reason to throw insults over a single post. 

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Originally Posted by christophrowley View Post

Can I suggest we nip this Apple argument in the bud? 


My Lenovo Y570 has almost the exact same specs as the $2500 MacBook Pro, and I paid $900 for it. Enough said wink.gif

 

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Originally Posted by Tilpo View Post


I think one of the greatest advantages of a desktop is that I can have three massive screens, a mechanical keyboard and a super nice mouse. I also have a laptop (a 13" macbook) but I hardly ever use it, only during school, but even that use will decrease once I have my tablet phone (Galaxy Note).

 


I think a laptop (most of them) have those advantages, except for having triple display support.  I think the most I've seen in a laptop is dual display support.  

 

All I know is that if came down to it, I wouldn't mind migrating to a laptop. :)

 


Edited by Destroysall - 2/4/12 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by Destroysall View Post


 

 


I think a laptop (most of them) have those advantages, except for having triple display support.  I think the most I've seen in a laptop is dual display support.  

 

All I know is that if came down to it, I wouldn't mind migrating to a laptop. :)

 

Very true, but I still think it's less of a hassle with desktops. I personally find it worth it at the lack of portability. But if it really came down to it, I would be willing to step over to the dark side as well and get a laptop instead.

Oh and another thing: storage. I have about 4TB of HDD space, which is going to be difficult with a laptop. And I don't think external hard disks really count as a replacement.
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Originally Posted by Destroysall View Post

I think a laptop (most of them) have those advantages, except for having triple display support.  I think the most I've seen in a laptop is dual display support.  

 

All I know is that if came down to it, I wouldn't mind migrating to a laptop. :)


If you don't need hardware acceleration on them you can just add as many of these as you want.  We use them at our office to give everyone 3 monitors since messing around with multiple graphics cards or getting a single one that can run 3 monitors is a pain in the ass to support.

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Originally Posted by Tilpo View Post


Very true, but I still think it's less of a hassle with desktops. I personally find it worth it at the lack of portability. But if it really came down to it, I would be willing to step over to the dark side as well and get a laptop instead.
Oh and another thing: storage. I have about 4TB of HDD space, which is going to be difficult with a laptop. And I don't think external hard disks really count as a replacement.


I have 2.25 TB on mine currently. Thats the max you can get in most current configurations. Some smaller venders with custom chasis can take on 4 drives, but those are usually quite pricey.

 

I get by with 2 tb of storage. I have my 12 TB raid array at home and can swap out stuff when need be.



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Originally Posted by Destroysall View Post


 

 


I think a laptop (most of them) have those advantages, except for having triple display support.  I think the most I've seen in a laptop is dual display support.  

 

All I know is that if came down to it, I wouldn't mind migrating to a laptop. :)

 


Most of the newer high end laptops have that capability. For instance my DV7T has a mini HDMI, HDMI and a VGA.

 

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Originally Posted by calipilot227 View Post


My Lenovo Y570 has almost the exact same specs as the $2500 MacBook Pro, and I paid $900 for it. Enough said wink.gif

 



There's more to a laptop than specs, but that's all I'll say on the matter. The PC/Mac debate has been stuck in the same deadlock for years and quarrelling over it now isn't going to change that. 

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