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post #31 of 53
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Originally Posted by kaushama View Post
Even better if a core from old comply T400 can be glued into the core. I am wondering what type of glue is best for this purpose? Super-glue and those solvent based glues can damage foam. I damned one when I tried with this my TF10. Even better if is is a water based glue which can be easily devolved as then the core can be re-used later.
I actually use this Olive Foam mod, but i actually cut the core out of one of the single flange sleeves, leaving a little lip at the top, then pushing it into the centre of the cored Shure Foam. Works a charm, but only for one ear (strangely, each of my ears are different). For the other ear i cored a small Shure Foam and put it underneath one of the clear single flanges from my deceased V-MODAs (they are extremely thin, therefore giving a slight skin to contain the foam in) and I get a fantastic seal with these.

Absolutely loving my IE8s, and they have barely even burned in yet! (running less than 10 hours so far).

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post #32 of 53
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Originally Posted by DavidMahler View Post
I'm going to make this post pretty short even though its a mod. I was having a bit of trouble achieving really good isolation with these IEMs. It wasn't just that the tips didn't fit me right, its also because unlike the typical IEM, these don't really enter your ear canal.

I did some thinking about how to achieve better isolation. I came up with what I feel is a very simple and effective solution, and it actually made the monitors sound considerably better in the process. (better meaning less grainy).

This is all I did:

Step 1: I took out a pair of Shure Olive Foams. I chose large size for me especially since they are not really entering the canal.....if your ears are really small then maybe medium will work better for ya.

Step 2: I "cored" the plastic center out of the Olive foam. I was able to do this by screwing the sleeve onto an old 1/8 inch headphone jack and just pulling the olive foam off. The plastic center eventually separates from the Foam itself, but the foam SHOULD remain intact.

Step 3: The foam will temporarilly look deformed for a few minutes. But it will come back to its normal self. Once it does.......screw it gently onto the appropriate place on the IE8.

Step 4.....BEFORE putting it in your ear compress the foam with your fingers. This is especially important and effective because the foam no longer has the plastic center and therefore will easily fit your ear.

Step 5: After putting it your ear, hold the monitor there for about 10 seconds till the foam expands. Don't expect the monitor to enter your ear canal like it does with armature driver IEMs.

Step 6: Enjoy the IE8s with superior isolation now and better seal. The sound will have more of a clear centered midrange and less grain around 8Khz...........I suspect this is what the IEMs are supposed to sound like when fitting the ear 100 percent.


I will attempt to take pictures tomorrow.

-Dave
Your mod increases isolation, or mainly works for a better fit? To me, there is a difference. I had the IE8s and with the Sony hybrids, the fit/seal was fine (though it always felt loose in a weird way), but the isolation wasn't. Now, with this mod, the IE8s can basically overcome any and all ambient sounds? Such as planes, trains, etc.? If so, good for the IE8 owners. With the W3s and the tri-flanges, I am sealed off from the world, which is what I want in an IEM for travel (and at home too). And that is one reason, not the only one, that I chose the W3s over the IE8s. I also preferred the, as Soozieq puts it, "wow" impact of the Westones, more than the upsides of the IE8. But as you noted, they are both excellent IEMs. Now I just want to hear the UM3X as well, just out of curiosity.
post #33 of 53
Pictures would be good....
post #34 of 53
Just imagine an olive foamie, with no plastic core. Not too hard to visualize. I have a couple here, and they are pretty much what you would expect. In fact, when sitting on their bottoms, they look pretty much like regular olives, they just have a gaping hole in them rather then a small one.
post #35 of 53
As I read it, that look like Shure olives is best tipps, that can fit on everything. I think it is time to get mine.
post #36 of 53
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Originally Posted by soozieq View Post
Yes, I should have said I still like the way the IE8 does classical, I was just pointing out that piano sounded better to me with the W3. But having recently listened to Beethoven's Piano Concerto No. 3 in C minor (piano and orchestra), I have to say it sounded fantastic with the IE8. The huge soundstage makes such a difference as far as 'space' is concerned, and the orchestra just comes alive! It sounds incredible. I don't listen to much classical with earphones, preferring to listen on my home system instead - but it's so enjoyable with the IE8, that I think I'll put more of it on my dap

I agree, and there probably never will be. But the IE8 is certainly good enough for me, and I can never ever ever ever go back to a smaller soundstage. Oh, and did I mention I could never ever ever ever go back?
I thought you could never go back to a smaller soundstage? Why did you sell the IE8's?
post #37 of 53
A lot of people criticize the Shure olives for their sound, but honestly, I actually prefer their sound to any other tip. I don't know why. I'm weird .
post #38 of 53
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A lot of people criticize the Shure olives for their sound, but honestly, I actually prefer their sound to any other tip. I don't know why. I'm weird .
The shure olives tames the highs resulting in a warmer and more bassy sound. A complete no-no for the Shure SE530's.
post #39 of 53
Also, this struck me. If the Comply T400s work with the IE8s, and they do (in terms of fitting on the nozzle), what is the difference from using the Comply or the decored olives? The olive foam is better for SQ? I have olives and they can sound fine, but not better than Complys to me. The lack of a true sound tube allows a higher SQ? That has to be the only difference. Too late for me to try the IE8s with the de-cored olives, but I can try them with other wide circumference phones, like the RE2 or VSR0PRO II. I just had to ruin a good pair of olives to try it, since I am saving them to try with the UM3X, if I ever get those phones.

No matter, but good find if it works for IE8s owners who are having fit/isolation problems.
post #40 of 53
Dunno about the ie8 but I actually managed to wrestle on a pair of olives (core intact) onto the ie7's. Night and day improvement on iso but not so much on SQ. Problem was I had to completely destroy the tips when it came to taking them off!
post #41 of 53
Not big enough for my ears and doesn't go deep enough, so no seal but I did find a great solution (see sig if you haven't already, which is a similar concept).
post #42 of 53
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Originally Posted by moseboy View Post
A lot of people criticize the Shure olives for their sound, but honestly, I actually prefer their sound to any other tip. I don't know why. I'm weird .
if id guess why, would you be quite treble sensitive?
post #43 of 53
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Originally Posted by tstarn06 View Post
Also, this struck me. If the Comply T400s work with the IE8s, and they do (in terms of fitting on the nozzle), what is the difference from using the Comply or the decored olives? The olive foam is better for SQ? I have olives and they can sound fine, but not better than Complys to me. The lack of a true sound tube allows a higher SQ? That has to be the only difference. Too late for me to try the IE8s with the de-cored olives, but I can try them with other wide circumference phones, like the RE2 or VSR0PRO II. I just had to ruin a good pair of olives to try it, since I am saving them to try with the UM3X, if I ever get those phones.

No matter, but good find if it works for IE8s owners who are having fit/isolation problems.
well i found the decored olive just made the bass overpoweringly huge on them. it did tame the treble nicely if maybe a bit too much but mostly the bass just became a joke
post #44 of 53
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post
if id guess why, would you be quite treble sensitive?
I'm sensitive to sibilance, not treble. For example, my v.5 Paradigm Atoms, according to the speaker world, are considered bright (red trace):

http://www.stereophile.com/images/ar...907PA5fig6.jpg

But I'm listening to my Atoms right now, and they aren't the least bit fatiguing to me. In fact, if there were any less treble, I don't think I would like my speakers as much as I do.

With the olives, I can hear treble just fine, both on my SE530 and my IE8, but sibilance isn't there. However, even with the olives on, the Westone UM2 (back when I had it) could give me a headache in no time flat when given a song with even the slightest cymbal prominence.
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