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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose View Post

I'm going to have to look and find Monoliths & Dimensions on CD in my collection. I purchased it when it came out, 09? I played it a couple times but it seemed too experimental and artsy. I rather have screaming and guitar and drums! I will have to locate it and give it another last try!

It is experimental and artsy. I haven't heard them live, but I still think they are unique and interesting to listen to at any volume. I just like having diversity in my listening. And, they helped open me up to drone and ambient kinds of music. I know it's not for everyone, though.

 

Have you heard Black One? I think it's their most "metal" release and that's a stretch as well. I like that massive base drone and the black metal influence is kind of cool. I also dig their collaboration with Boris, Altar. But, it sounds like you lean more toward DM than stoner doom......although I think the Sunn influence is greater than the Boris on Altar.

 

Their early stuff is really experimental IMO.


Edited by markm1 - 3/25/13 at 7:18am
post #9002 of 17190
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

It is experimental and artsy. I haven't heard them live, but I still think they are unique and interesting to listen to at any volume. I just like having diversity in my listening. And, they helped open me up to drone and ambient kinds of music. I know it's not for everyone, though.

 

Have you heard Black One? I think it's their most "metal" release and that's a stretch as well. I like that massive base drone and the black metal influence is kind of cool. I also dig their collaboration with Boris, Altar. But, it sounds like you lean more toward DM than stoner doom......although I think the Sunn influence is greater than the Boris on Altar.

 

Their early stuff is really experimental IMO.


Black One is my only other CD.I love it. It is the most easy to get to know if you are coming from a Black Metal prospective. I actually play the CD a lot. I have Alter too. Don't really like Alter, again too unreachable for me. Cool to listen to once but not a regular player in my rotation.

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I absolutely have to see them live after that last night. It's the only thing I've felt I wanted a sub for . Just a huge 18" sub to move the room around me. 

 

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I strongly believe that Sunn is meant to be experienced live. Their whole sound is based on the physicality of bass. Bass so omnipresent you can reach out and touch it. Not many people have a rig at home that can do what a full blown stack of amps can do at a live venue. Listening to the album is a completely different experience from the live show. I urge EVERYONE to at least go see them live once. 

 

One of the downsides to Sunn is that when you've seen them once, there isn't much incentive to go see them again a month later. For me anyway. :)

 

When I went to see Ulver play the last time, they had Void of Voices as their support act. It's a solo endeavor by Attila, from Mayhem/Sunn/Burial Chamber/Plasmapool etc. It's just his voice. Very impressive. At one time during the gig I was convinced an entire choir was singing. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Pritolus View Post

I realize that's a bit stupid, but I guess I've always been drawn to the melodic side of metal. I've always been a sucker for In Flames (though I really don't like Come Clarity and A Sense of Purpose), and I've never been able to appreciate black metal like Immortal (despite being norwegian tongue.gif).

 

I got off the In Flames bus after Clayman. Unfortunately a lot of melodic death metal is really stale these days, the metalcore guys kind of stole the Gothenburg sound and ruined it, and then a lot of MDM bands went "hey those metalcore guys are selling records, let's sound more like them!" That lead to so called "modern" melodeath, aka CRAP.

 

There are still a lot of melodic bands doing good work though: Omnium Gatherum, Be'lakor, Allegaeon, Suidakra, etc. The Swedes definitely need to get their act together, though.

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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

It is experimental and artsy. I haven't heard them live, but I still think they are unique and interesting to listen to at any volume. I just like having diversity in my listening. And, they helped open me up to drone and ambient kinds of music. I know it's not for everyone, though.

 

Have you heard Black One? I think it's their most "metal" release and that's a stretch as well. I like that massive base drone and the black metal influence is kind of cool. I also dig their collaboration with Boris, Altar. But, it sounds like you lean more toward DM than stoner doom......although I think the Sunn influence is greater than the Boris on Altar.

 

Their early stuff is really experimental IMO.

Cool....yeah-agreed-Black One is the one I've gone back to the most.

 

After listening to a bunch of Swans recently, I'd put Monoliths in that same kind of realm along with other weird ambient stuff, maybe some of the more laid back Neurosis...but not really "metal" as such. Weird heavy schiit....mabye along with that last  of the Blut Aus Nord trilogy.

 

And, really, does anybody actually listen to Sunn a lot? For me, it's kind of when the mood strikes kind of thing.

 

Any of you dig Asva? I randomly came across a review of their '08 release-"What You Don't Know is Frontier" and picked it up back in '08. If memory serves, the inspiration of the release was the death of one of the band members, I think the brother of the principal writer. It's pretty "deep".

 

Really cool drone IMO

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I like the byte-sized Sunn sessions. I own Monoliths, 00Void, Black One and Dömkirke on vinyl. Black One is certainly the most diverse of the bunch and void being the epitome of drone.

 

They really opened the gates for me too to dark and beautiful rituals.

post #9007 of 17190

I can see myself listening to Sunn a lot though not as an immersive experience every time.

 

It's a wonderful experience when done properly and it can make excellent background drone to study/work by.

post #9008 of 17190
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

I can see myself listening to Sunn a lot though not as an immersive experience every time.

 

It's a wonderful experience when done properly and it can make excellent background drone to study/work by.

Agreed-good background music. I've also got White-2 (I think there are two "white" albums) and Flight of the Bohemoth (basically like the sound of an airplane droning endlessly with wierd electronic additions), but I rarely listen to them as I think they've really progressed their sound since Black One. I can certainly listen to them and, hey....if you want less accessible and arty-those fit the bill! More experimental and less dynamic, tho-so hard for me to recommend except for the black tar diehard fans.

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I absolutely have to see them live after that last night. It's the only thing I've felt I wanted a sub for . Just a huge 18" sub to move the room around me. 

 

There is a frequency where maybe half the album is just coming from the sub-woofer. I actually think Black One is a sub-woofer demo disk!

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Hmm, Dave, i know you typically recommend other pressings than Black on Black pressings of records. But Cult of Luna's Vertikal, the original EU pressing is Back on Black, whereas the new US pressing is Density records. Would you still assume the original EU pressing to sound better?

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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva View Post

Hmm, Dave, i know you typically recommend other pressings than Black on Black pressings of records. But Cult of Luna's Vertikal, the original EU pressing is Back on Black, whereas the new US pressing is Density records. Would you still assume the original EU pressing to sound better?

As I mentioned in my review, the vinyl is cut from the same master as the CD for both. I passed despite my love for this record.
post #9014 of 17190
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Originally Posted by Kirnupiima View Post



CD in 2-6 months, hopefully MFi can actually review it.
post #9015 of 17190
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Originally Posted by Trogdor View Post

As I mentioned in my review, the vinyl is cut from the same master as the CD for both. I passed despite my love for this record.

Oh frown.gif that makes me sad. I wanted to throw more money at them too...and I totally read your review! Lol I had just forgotten that tidbit.
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