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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Soundtracks... And My Father... along with The Seer are the 3 best Swans albums, IMO. Excellent music. Actually gonna drop my Seer LP Thursday when my speakers finally come in. Hype.

 

Also, I'll say again that I really enjoyed that Kreator album and I usually hate Trash.

Hey, great minds and all....seriously, thinking about Kreator,  I remember very much liking this guy:

 

The Haunted Made Me Do It

 

And, while quite different, and maybe like early Slayer-the combination of Thrash with some DM like extremity just sounds good when in the mood.

 

Listenging to "Soundtracks" right now....first few tracks...very ambient....cool stuff.

post #8897 of 16813

Gira is an absolute legend in Ambient Drone stuff. Just...wonderful. It's a great but er different experience on headphones and speakers. 

 

The first time I listened to The Seer it was my first night with the LL + 009. My back was too a near pitch black room and I kept having to turn around and was greatly unnerved by it. 

post #8898 of 16813

I actually haven't listened to them on HP's yet....note to self.

 

I think the Seer is my favorite realease from last year.

 

Listening to Soundtracks...the influence on Neurosis is pretty glaring....and pretty creepy in spots

post #8899 of 16813

I've had my LPs since release but have never spun it yet. I feel bad. It was in my top 3 last year.

 

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I actually haven't listened to them on HP's yet....note to self.

 

I think the Seer is my favorite realease from last year.

 

Listening to Soundtracks...the influence on Neurosis is pretty glaring....and pretty creepy in spots

post #8900 of 16813
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

I've had my LPs since release but have never spun it yet. I feel bad. It was in my top 3 last year.
Hey MT, since you seem to be a bit of a vinyl expert, I'm looking to get a table and phono stage, but I don't want to spend much more than 1k total on both to be used mostly for metal, what would you recommend? I was looking at maybe the Pro Ject rpm 1.3 and a sim audio 110lp, which would be just a bit over that.
post #8901 of 16813
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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva View Post


Hey MT, since you seem to be a bit of a vinyl expert, I'm looking to get a table and phono stage, but I don't want to spend much more than 1k total on both to be used mostly for metal, what would you recommend? I was looking at maybe the Pro Ject rpm 1.3 and a sim audio 110lp, which would be just a bit over that.

 

I can't recommend Simaudio stuff highly enough, but if your system is a bit analytical it might not be the best pair when it comes to Metal.

 

Neutrality in Metal tends to make the highs harsh. At least that's what I've found.

 

As for the TT, the 1.3 is definitely a sound design but I haven't heard it to comment. Almost bought one when I was getting back into it but I got a good deal on my Scout.

 

I can recommend a Rega on good authority though. It also gives you a solid upgrade path down the line as well.

 

I'd recommend RP1 with stock cart and a 110LP. That's a killer first rig.

 

EDIT: That's a bit over budget at $1100 but it gives you a solid upgrade path. The 110LP is a bit overboard compared to the table and stuff but you won't have to replace it for a LONG time if you go that route.


Edited by MorbidToaster - 3/20/13 at 10:38pm
post #8902 of 16813
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

 

I can't recommend Simaudio stuff highly enough, but if your system is a bit analytical it might not be the best pair when it comes to Metal.

 

Neutrality in Metal tends to make the highs harsh. At least that's what I've found.

 

As for the TT, the 1.3 is definitely a sound design but I haven't heard it to comment. Almost bought one when I was getting back into it but I got a good deal on my Scout.

 

I can recommend a Rega on good authority though. It also gives you a solid upgrade path down the line as well.

 

I'd recommend RP1 with stock cart and a 110LP. That's a killer first rig.

 

EDIT: That's a bit over budget at $1100 but it gives you a solid upgrade path. The 110LP is a bit overboard compared to the table and stuff but you won't have to replace it for a LONG time if you go that route.


 

Those were just my own initial ideas, the other option would be to get a nicer table, something like a VPI Traveler and then like a Bugle 2 phono stage. Which do you think would give better SQ? I know in general im more a fan of spending more money on the transducer and the source then the amp, i think you get more sound quality for your money that way, so to take that philosophy to the vinyl rig, that makes more sense. What do you think?

 

Edit: also, neutrality doesnt really bother me, i prefer something to be pretty ruthless in its presentation even for metal.


Edited by SoupRKnowva - 3/20/13 at 11:23pm
post #8903 of 16813

Well to tell you the truth the magic is in the cartridge. Tables are important, but it's more the management of the little things that makes a big difference in vinyl playback.

 

For me it was managing static. It was a huge issue with my current rig for awhile and now with a new mat, and brush it's less of an issue. After I get my RCM it'll be a non-issue.

 

I think the Rega (Or Project) + Sim is still the best choice. Solid list of upgrades you can play with for the Rega that don't cost and arm and a leg as well as option to replace the cart sooner which will make the most difference.

 

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Those were just my own initial ideas, the other option would be to get a nicer table, something like a VPI Traveler and then like a Bugle 2 phono stage. Which do you think would give better SQ? I know in general im more a fan of spending more money on the transducer and the source then the amp, i think you get more sound quality for your money that way, so to take that philosophy to the vinyl rig, that makes more sense. What do you think?

 

Edit: also, neutrality doesnt really bother me, i prefer something to be pretty ruthless in its presentation even for metal.

post #8904 of 16813

*

 

FINALLY A DATE ON THE STRAPPING YOUNG LAD LP BOX SET.

 

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH. HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE.

 

...also 3 days before Record Store Day. Ugh.

post #8905 of 16813

Not to derail this thread completely, but while we're on the subject; what do you think of the Rega RP1 + Pro-Ject Phono Box + Schiit Asgard, MT?

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RP1 is my go to recommendation for starting out but I don't have much experience with Pro-Ject beyond their lower end tables tables.

 

I was considering building a mini system at one point with the Phono Box though. My recommendation for a cheaper phono stage is always the Cambridge stuff. Just because I know it's a good recommendation.

 

I like all the Schiit stuff but haven't heard an Asgard outside of meet conditions. I bet it'd sound pretty good though depending on the headphones.

 

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Not to derail this thread completely, but while we're on the subject; what do you think of the Rega RP1 + Pro-Ject Phono Box + Schiit Asgard, MT?

post #8907 of 16813

 

Hey y'all,

 

After immersing myself with Swans for a couple of days, I needed a simple release...

 

I'm giving the new Clutch release a qualified thumbs-up. Qualified in that I'm kind of a fan boy, being a softie for old fashioned boogie, stoner blues rock and that I just listened to this release under the absolute worst condition imaginable: Rhapsody-work Dell PC-schitty stock soundcard and speakers-no external DAC-no amplifier-no HP's-no nothin.....

 

Caveman style, baby!

 

IMO-This bad boy rocks! I was lukewarm on their last two, falling in love w/ the first two releases I purchased some years ago-Pure Rock Fury and Blast Tyrant. On a cursory listen, I'd say it doesn't quite hit those heights, but is way fun and consistent.

 

After all these years of jaded extremity, I still enjoy plain, simple hard rock. Just bring on the jams and throw down. That's pretty much Clutch, no?

 

Pretty much a return to form: hard bluesy, stomp and roll rock music. A little bit of funk in places. No frills. It's straightforward, uncomplicated, unextreme and fun.

 

Listening on a cold day in MD DC suburbs where I work it gives me a distinct image: drinking a schiit ton of cheap beer at an outdoor festival.

 

And, in my book, ain't nothin wrong with thatbeerchug.gif


Edited by markm1 - 3/21/13 at 10:55am
post #8908 of 16813

We've been talkin' about Clutch a lot here lately, and that's just fine. Love 'em.

post #8909 of 16813
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Well to tell you the truth the magic is in the cartridge. Tables are important, but it's more the management of the little things that makes a big difference in vinyl playback.

 

For me it was managing static. It was a huge issue with my current rig for awhile and now with a new mat, and brush it's less of an issue. After I get my RCM it'll be a non-issue.

 

I think the Rega (Or Project) + Sim is still the best choice. Solid list of upgrades you can play with for the Rega that don't cost and arm and a leg as well as option to replace the cart sooner which will make the most difference.

 

 

Hmm, i dont think i had heard anyone say that the cart makes the biggest difference. A friend was recommending the RP3 with the elys cart it comes with, mostly because of how good the tonearm is that it comes with, and to get a cheaper phono stage to start with. And if i went with the Traveler i was probably going to go with a 2M Blue. What cart upgrade would you be recommending for the RP1?

post #8910 of 16813
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Originally Posted by wrathzombie View Post

 

Æther Realm- One Chosen By Gods(2013)

Melodic Death/Folk Metal

Eternal Tears of Sorrow - Saivon Lapsi ( Symphonic Death Metal)

 

 

I finally listened to Aether Realm, pretty meh IMO, sounds A LOT like Ensiferum, but nowhere near as good as From Afar was.

 

As a big ETOS fan, I think Saivon Lapsi is a disappointment.

 

http://www.metal-fi.com/eternal-tears-of-sorrow-saivon-lapsi/

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