Lets Talk Metal - Page 567

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Originally Posted by macrocheesium 

IMO Master of Puppets is the most overrated album of all time. As a Metallica fan I've just never been able to get into it, and I honestly cannot understand why so many people love it. Anyone else feel this way?

Agreed. Never got into it.

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Originally Posted by macrocheesium 

IMO Master of Puppets is the most overrated album of all time. As a Metallica fan I've just never been able to get into it, and I honestly cannot understand why so many people love it. Anyone else feel this way?

St Anger must be your favorite album?

Didn't like that one much either, but I thought Death Magnetic was great.

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Originally Posted by macrocheesium 

IMO Master of Puppets is the most overrated album of all time. As a Metallica fan I've just never been able to get into it, and I honestly cannot understand why so many people love it. Anyone else feel this way?

I like MOP, but kind of like a lot of classic rock, I overplayed that album until I was sick of it. Personally, Ride the lightning was always my favorite-maybe because it was my first.

Thought I should share this with the Metal thread as they might not be up on Pendulum due to them not being...well...Metal. Really enjoyed this track that they did with In Flames. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnBxYFJLVS4

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Originally Posted by macrocheesium 

IMO Master of Puppets is the most overrated album of all time. As a Metallica fan I've just never been able to get into it, and I honestly cannot understand why so many people love it. Anyone else feel this way?

I like Battery and the snare sound in St. Anger but otherwise Metallica and this holy trinity stuff sounds like garbage to me. It's good they inspire so many kids to grab the guitar and learn to play though.

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Originally Posted by macrocheesium 

IMO Master of Puppets is the most overrated album of all time. As a Metallica fan I've just never been able to get into it, and I honestly cannot understand why so many people love it. Anyone else feel this way?

For me, MOP is the only album that holds up well enough for me to listen to at this point. KEA has some great songs, but it sounds so terrible that I just don't have any desire to really listen to it. RTL feels dated, and while AJFA is musically a great album, it was produced so badly that I can't listen to it. Everything after that is basically garbage. The black album is just embarrassing now (EEEENNNNTTAAAAAAHHHH NIEEEEEEEEEGGGHHT, WRROFFF TA NEVAH NEVAH LAYYND), and it only gets worse from there.

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Originally Posted by DaveBSC 

 

For me, MOP is the only album that holds up well enough for me to listen to at this point. KEA has some great songs, but it sounds so terrible that I just don't have any desire to really listen to it. RTL feels dated, and while AJFA is musically a great album, it was produced so badly that I can't listen to it. Everything after that is basically garbage. The black album is just embarrassing now (EEEENNNNTTAAAAAAHHHH NIEEEEEEEEEGGGHHT, WRROFFF TA NEVAH NEVAH LAYYND), and it only gets worse from there.

I playbacked Enter Sandman in primary school. I was Jason Newsted because I chickened out of being Hetfield at the last moment. I let my hair grow just for that performance, so I could headbang. I was 11 years old. :p 

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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster 

Agreed. Never got into it.

I remember being dismissive of Black Sabbath and Led Zep when I was a kid, before I realized how important these early bands were. Now I woriship those two bands. Imagine what Zep I must have sounded like when it first came out? I didn't get that growing up in the 80's and being sick of Stairway to Heaven.

So, one, thing to keep in mind regarding the relative significance of Metallica is the state of music when they released their earlier material. It's quite easy to write them off now. So, I'm a peer of those guys (age) and I remember hearing about Metallica when I was 18 or so and very impressionable musically. Remember, there was no Internet then. There was no extreme metal. There was a lot of cruddy 80's pop and alternative. U2, REM, Madonna and Prince and Michael Jackson. Quirky alternative rock. There was punk and hardcore. But punk kids and metal kids were in separate camps.

What was there in terms metal? . There was old hard rock (AC/DC, Van Hallen,etc.), NWOBHM and a lot of hair metal-Poison, Bon Jovi, Motley Crue, Twisted Sister. The metal kids and the punk kids didn't really mix it up.Thrash was just getting started

When Metallica came on the scene (along w/ Motorhead, Antrhax,etc.) they were a shot of fresh air. IMO-thrash helped merge some of the qualities of hardcore w/ metal. One of the biggest change in music IMO, is that punk got heavier and the two genres started to intertwine.

I became disappointed w/ the Black album on. But, prior to that they were one of the most exciting bands to listen to. Flash forward about 30 years-I'm tired of listenign to Metallica.  BUT.....-for all of you who love to trash Metalica, I think you have to recognize where they were in real time when they came out w/ those early albums and what other kinds of heavy metal were available.

Sure, I think everyone recognizes the pioneer work. But in my book it's not very good music, be old or new. 

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Originally Posted by markm1 

What was there in terms metal? . There was old hard rock (AC/DC, Van Hallen,etc.), NWOBHM and a lot of hair metal-Poison, Bon Jovi, Motley Crue, Twisted Sister. The metal kids and the punk kids didn't really mix it up.Thrash was just getting started

Hey, don't mess with Bon Jovi and Van Halen.  But seriously, I think Van Halen was quite possibly the most influential band for metal. IMO they were the first major step toward the genre.

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Originally Posted by Kirnupiima 

Sure, I think everyone recognizes the pioneer work. But in my book it's not very good music, be old or new. 

Fair enough. But, I think you would have to have been be a young head banger in the 80's to really understand what the music scene was like. It's probably hard to really get, but before they broke when they hit the charts w/ "And Justice..." they defined underground metal.

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Originally Posted by macrocheesium 

Hey, don't mess with Bon Jovi and Van Halen.  But seriously, I think Van Halen was quite possibly the most influential band for metal. IMO they were the first major step toward the genre.

Van Halen? Really? You have got to be kidding me... They only started in 1972, Judas Priest was almost around when Van Halen picked up his guitar professionaly. Deep Purple, Cream and Black Sabbath man! :)

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Originally Posted by Negakinu 

 

Van Halen? Really? You have got to be kidding me... They only started in 1972, Judas Priest was almost around when Van Halen picked up his guitar professionaly. Deep Purple, Cream and Black Sabbath man! :)

It's funny. The older I get the more I realize how seminal Black Sabbath were. I remember discovering "heaven and hell', and loving Dio's voice. Then later realizing it was the 1st few albums that now are credited for spawning an entire sub genres of metal. Back to that top 20 list- I think Master of Reality is one of the most important albums in the history of heavy music. If you haven't heard that album-please give it at least one listen!

Oh, yeah-Van Halen were OK too-hee, hee Really, wouldn't you have to give Van Halen some credit for the plethora of tech-fill in the blank-any sub genre you like?

Is there anything else I should get from this label while I'm at it? I won't be ordering right away, but I always like to make my shipping charges count for over the pond.

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Originally Posted by Trogdor 

Hey we have another article in our "Classic Wax" series reviewing Nokturnal Mortum's epic The Voice of Steel.



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