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Anyone remember that bird that was doing metal vocals on Youtube?

 

 

yeah, I've got the 7"s plus the banned art work one...  The "bird" was doing album reviews for decibel for a while, might still be...

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You know, I never really got a chance to listen to COF fairly. I've only been exposed to their later albums and didn't think much of them, but it seems like their earlier albums are worth checking out. Cursory glances at their lyrics... consider me impressed. Perhaps I can find a used copy of Dusk... and her Embrace somewhere cheap, since that's what you guys seem to like.
 
 
And I've never said this before, but I hope you guys at Metal-Fi take off. I think elucidating awareness of production in terms of dynamics is really important, and you guys educate that well in how you weave it into your reviews. A dime in a dozen metal reviews will use generic buzzwords, but your guys' content is fulfilling. Cheers.

Edited by vaed - 2/5/13 at 2:22pm
post #8433 of 16996
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i know i'm a little late to this game, but i'd never actually heard of them before, your review intrigued me to pick up a copy of their 2010 release (rape your god and pray for reprieve)
brutal stuff!  i'll be grabbing that EP when it arrives!


as for CoF and the discussion at hand....never been a fan although i wouldn't say i dislike any of their stuff..  i have Dusk... and Midian, Dusk is definitely the better album by far.  maybe i'll pick up some of their older junk and give it a listen!

Awesome. I am telling this EP is even better than their debut in a lot of ways. ODEM rips...
post #8434 of 16996
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For some reason the quote button is not working but I'd like to say thank you. Dave and I have been working real hard to bring even better content soon! :-)
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For some reason the quote button is not working but I'd like to say thank you. Dave and I have been working real hard to bring even better content soon! :-)

 Personally, I flirted with COF for about a year. I thought Dusk and Her Embrace was a fun listen, pretty creative in a vampire obsessed way,  and then remember getting Thornography and feeling like there was just a lot of more compelling black metal out there...sort of like they were aiming for the teenage, mall-whatever-fill in the blank "core" skate boarding pop metal scene. And, yet, there was something about them that was kind of cool. Operative word(s)-"kind of"....

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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

 Personally, I flirted with COF for about a year. I thought Dusk and Her Embrace was a fun listen, pretty creative in a vampire obsessed way,  and then remember getting Thornography and feeling like there was just a lot of more compelling black metal out there...sort of like they were aiming for the teenage, mall-whatever-fill in the blank "core" skate boarding pop metal scene. And, yet, there was something about them that was kind of cool. Operative word(s)-"kind of"....

 

For me, old CoF are a massive nostalgia thing. I bought these old albums back when they were released, around 1995/1996, after having tape traded my way into black metal. It was the first time I heard vocals like that. I was 12 years old when I purchased Dusk... And Her Embrace so it's mainly responsible for everything I got interested in after. It made me want to play black metal myself and I got my first bm band when I was 15 and we were heavily influenced by old Cradle/Emperor/Tartaros/Morgul/Covenant. That was almost 15 years ago now. :) 

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Thanks for including Vempire. I really do like that EP. If I was to do a complete inventory of COFs out put I would also have to include the live DVDs, the first live DVD is by far the best.The live album too! Also the video output. I always have liked their sound.I purchased Cruelty and the Beast when it came out in 1998, only I was in my mid-30s lol.tongue.gif

 

It didn't hit me till later how Dusk---and Her Embrace was. I just started wanting to listen to it a lot. I kept never getting sick of it. I kept finding new things about it. Finally I realized the mood it had and how it was soo different from all else. I picked it up in 1998 also. I don't really know what to call COF, they are not black metal, they are not gothic rock, but a kind of mixture. I would guess that Danny Filth's voice is an learned tolerance of sort?wink.gif

His voice is both the reason they are good but maybe alienates many to the band. Lately though the vocals sound more like a small mouse when stepped on top of, and is dying.mad.gif

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Studio albums
  • The Principle of Evil Made Flesh (1994)   9/10 (Almost perfect but for the sound of the bassdrum.) 
  • Vempire (1996)                                         9/10 (Amazing but too short!)
  • Dusk... and Her Embrace (1996)               10/10 (Perfection, still to this day. The album I have listened most to in my entire life.)
  • Cruelty and the Beast (1998)                     9/10 (Not as good as Dusk but still of massive importance in my childhood)
  • Midian (2000)                                            8/10 (love the lyrics on some tracks)

 

 

 

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I feel really stupid. I never got around to listening to the new Weapon album. Man they never disappoint:



Da Red Moose I think posted it first, but they are so awesome.

No was not me, but someone else on this thread from Asia. I'm experienced with the album but not really into it.

post #8438 of 16996
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Originally Posted by DaveBSC View Post


You've really gotta hear the early stuff dude, it's SO MUCH BETTER than anything they've done post Clayman. Jester, Whoracle, Colony.  classics all.

Those are my In-Flames classic choices. I could see how someone could get into the later stuff first and learn to like it. I avoided them for years and years. A coworker gave me Soundtrack To Your Escape in 2004 when it was new. I liked it but was amazed to find so many haters saying it was a low-point in the out-put. I had to find their early stuff and am glad I did.

 

 

 

 

As far as the Gothenburg sound of MDM, I know of only a few bands. I think though that I have found some of the best the genre has to offer. In Flames and At The Gates could be maybe considered the cream of the crop.

 

slaughter of the soul is considered by many to the the genre starter as well as one of the best Gothenberg album period.

 

 

 

 

 

And lastly here......I know that technically The Somberland is not considered a Gothenberg sound release. This may be because the band hailed from Stromstad Sweden and not Gothenburg and came more early. Still I think anyone into Gothenberg death metal should hear the band.L3000.gif

post #8439 of 16996
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It didn't hit me till later how Dusk---and Her Embrace was. I just started wanting to listen to it a lot. I kept never getting sick of it. I kept finding new things about it. Finally I realized the mood it had and how it was soo different from all else. I picked it up in 1998 also. I don't really know what to call COF, they are not black metal, they are not gothic rock, but a kind of mixture. I would guess that Danny Filth's voice is an learned tolerance of sort?wink.gif

His voice is both the reason they are good but maybe alienates many to the band. Lately though the vocals sound more like a small mouse when stepped on top of, and is dying.mad.gif

 

 

 

In my opinion, Dani's voice has been going since "Midian". His best vocal performance ever is on "Dusk... and her Embrace". He sounds like a wounded banshee there, almost a suicidal black metal wail at times. On "Dusk... and her Embrace" there's this animalistic sadness to the vocals that they never captured on any other release. I didn't understand it back then, since I was so new to black metal, but it spoke to me in a sort of instinctual way. Like a language you don't know the words to but still conveys emotion like it was your own. 

 

I would say the first three albums are vampiric black metal. Very decadent and British and with a different aesthetic and culture than Scandinavian black metal. Almost romantic at times, where Scandinavian black metal was mostly agressive and triumphant back then. "Cruelty and the Beast" still had that vampiric feel, but with way more thrash metal influences. On Midian they suddenly turned all Clive Barker on us and things went to poop really fast. Some of his best lyrics ever are on Midian though, in my opinion. Check this out: 

 

"We've woven hearts a thorn arbour

Left tear streaked reason upon the shore
And bereft of compass, star or more
Set out for this World's end
 
Few at the prow, most slave below
Painting coal a perfect gold
But for all it's worth, the engines slow
Dead in the brine again
 
Come cabin fever, sodomy on the bounty
Prey to phallus seas
That hiss and foam to douse disease
A storm roars on the way
 
Blacker than the Ace of Rapes
Dealt out by Death in darkwood glades
Our Ship of Fools, all boards handmade
Sinks, dashed by seismïc waves..."
 
Genius. 
 

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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose View Post

Those are my In-Flames classic choices. I could see how someone could get into the later stuff first and learn to like it. I avoided them for years and years. A coworker gave me Soundtrack To Your Escape in 2004 when it was new. I liked it but was amazed to find so many haters saying it was a low-point in the out-put. I had to find their early stuff and am glad I did.

 

 

And lastly here......I know that technically The Somberland is not considered a Gothenberg sound release. This may be because the band hailed from Stromstad Sweden and not Gothenburg and came more early. Still I think anyone into Gothenberg death metal should hear the band.L3000.gif

 

 

Don't forget old Dark Tranquility and Sacrilege. Those were the bands that got me into the Gothenberg sound. 

 


Edited by Negakinu - 2/6/13 at 1:39am
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This being maybe the only COF discussion I have viewed on "Let's talk Metal" in my short time here, I'll post another song. Amazing no COF haters have come out of the woodwork to rain on the parade.................................so far?tongue.gif

 

 

 

This DVD released in 2001 ends in being the definitive live video record of the band near it's peak. Perfectly filmed and recorded, it's a great piece of COF history.


Edited by Redcarmoose - 2/6/13 at 4:14am
post #8441 of 16996
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Originally Posted by Negakinu View Post


I would say the first three albums are vampiric black metal.

Vampiric? What is that? evil_smiley.gif
post #8442 of 16996
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Vampiric? What is that? evil_smiley.gif

 

The adjective of the word "vampire"? How should I know? I'm Dutch. I just use random words strung together in the hope to get the message across. Bubblegum doormat fix vanity theologist. 

post #8443 of 16996

I think vampiric is a great word. Better than vampire like, vampiree, vampireeish...blink.gif

post #8444 of 16996
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Originally Posted by Negakinu View Post

The adjective of the word "vampire"? How should I know? I'm Dutch. I just use random words strung together in the hope to get the message across. Bubblegum doormat fix vanity theologist. 

Ohhhh, bubblegum doormat fix vanity theologist.....dude, why the heck did you not say that in the first place? Jeesz...
post #8445 of 16996

I still like this album as well. My Sweet Shadow being the highlight. God that song is fantastic.

 

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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose View Post

Those are my In-Flames classic choices. I could see how someone could get into the later stuff first and learn to like it. I avoided them for years and years. A coworker gave me Soundtrack To Your Escape in 2004 when it was new. I liked it but was amazed to find so many haters saying it was a low-point in the out-put. I had to find their early stuff and am glad I did.

 

 

One of the songs responsible for getting my into Metal. Her Ghost in the Fog is great. 

 

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This being maybe the only COF discussion I have viewed on "Let's talk Metal" in my short time here, I'll post another song. Amazing no COF haters have come out of the woodwork to rain on the parade.................................so far?

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