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post #7606 of 16292

I didnt think it was possible for worse news than that of Shannon Lucas leaving The Black Dahlia Murder to hit so soon :'(

 

http://www.bravewords.com/news/193675

 

Arthur von Nagel, the lyricist/singer/bassist for Cormorant is leaving the band...

post #7607 of 16292
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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva View Post


I usually check the Steve Hoffman forums for this, but it isn't there. Any idea whether the hi res version on hd tracks is worth it over the cd?


Good question. I'll see if I can find out for you.

post #7608 of 16292
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actually i agree 100% with this.  i can dig a lot of metalcore stuff, but not this!


Ouch. Worse than metalcore? Really? Atreyu?

post #7609 of 16292

Vader - Morbid Reich on vinyl. Sourced from a high-res, uncompressed master, measures DR11. Awesome. We're going to start highlighting pressings like this on Metal-Fi soon, in an upcoming series.

 

 

1000


Edited by DaveBSC - 11/13/12 at 5:18pm
post #7610 of 16292
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Vader - Morbid Reich on vinyl. Sourced from a high-res, uncompressed master, measures DR11. Awesome. We're going to start highlighting pressings like this on Metal-Fi soon, in an upcoming series.




Awesome! Love that album
post #7611 of 16292
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Originally Posted by DaveBSC View Post

Vader - Morbid Reich on vinyl. Sourced from a high-res, uncompressed master, measures DR11. Awesome. We're going to start highlighting pressings like this on Metal-Fi soon, in an upcoming series.

 

 

1000

 

now if only they would release those digital masters that the vinyl was stamped from...that would be the best option...

post #7612 of 16292
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now if only they would release those digital masters that the vinyl was stamped from...that would be the best option...

 

EXACTLY! MR wasn't recorded on analog tape, so there's already a hi-res uncompressed digital master essentially ready to go. They should release it on a store like HDTracks as 24/96, and people would buy. If you want a copy of Ghost Reveries on vinyl you'd better be prepared to pony up $300. That's not fair.

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EXACTLY! MR wasn't recorded on analog tape, so there's already a hi-res uncompressed digital master essentially ready to go. They should release it on a store like HDTracks as 24/96, and people would buy. If you want a copy of Ghost Reveries on vinyl you'd better be prepared to pony up $300. That's not fair.

 

Not only is it not fair, but the vinyl is flat out inferior to what you would get with the digital masters directly...so dumb

post #7614 of 16292
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Not only is it not fair, but the vinyl is flat out inferior to what you would get with the digital masters directly...so dumb


Yep. The 45 double LP for Dark Tranquillity's We Are The Void (at least the copy I heard) had groove distortion problems from a bad pressing. With the digital master there is no pressing plant to worry about. You'd think it would be obvious...

post #7615 of 16292
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Yep. The 45 double LP for Dark Tranquillity's We Are The Void (at least the copy I heard) had groove distortion problems from a bad pressing. With the digital master there is no pressing plant to worry about. You'd think it would be obvious...

 

not only no pressing plant, but no conversion to analog using their "professional" DACs, or the horrid chain of events known as a TT rig -_- id much rather listen directly out of a high end DAC in hi res at home..

 

 

also i dont know why i didnt think to check here first, but the DR database came to the rescue, heres the HD Tracks release http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=29375 vs the cd release http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=29219 that makes me so sad, cuase im not really a believer in hi res, but i am a believer in less $hitty masters, this just happens to be the way to get them...

post #7616 of 16292
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The sugar coated comment because I think you guys are swell and all:
Nice review! Good to see you guys are crunching out reviews and getting that Metal-Fi content in there. The reviews are easy to read and touch on enough subjects to give the reader a decent idea about the album. Ofcourse opinions are like genitals right, everyone's got one (or two in some cases) so your opinion about an album might differ from mine but it's always good to read a well-written review. So kudos. Anyway I got a little nephew that might like this band. Seriously. Gonna send it his way...  

What I really think:
...Ooooorrr maybe I won't send it his way because I want him to actually listen to good music. C'mon man, this sounds like a trancecore Soilwork with a really bad vocalist. Every forced vocal line is doubled, laden with effects and pushed back in the mix to camouflage the lack of conviction. The guitars sound lifeless and re-amped to smithereens, the drums sound like a cut 'n paste Addictive Drums trigger demo, the synths are nothing but standard arpeggiator-sweeps from a 1999 Korg Triton (really, I recognise them. That pad they use is called Korg Moon Jam) and the compositions are a bland and predictable mess of rejected Soilwork and Scar Symmetry riffs with enough bubblegum synthpop hooks to make sure they sell some girlies after the show as well. This is the stuff Nuclear Blast play in their elevator and it's as metal as a pink balloon. 

Negakinu, I love your posts. Leave it to the resident BME to make fun of a melodeath album. Shock! :-p

Truth be told, I think for a debut this is quite good and makes a pretty find good pair of German genitals.

Here is another track for some "easy listening:"



Yeah, its been done before, but I these guys are on the right path for sure.
post #7617 of 16292
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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva View Post

I didnt think it was possible for worse news than that of Shannon Lucas leaving The Black Dahlia Murder to hit so soon :'(

http://www.bravewords.com/news/193675

Arthur von Nagel, the lyricist/singer/bassist for Cormorant is leaving the band...

EDIT: I just read it.

This really stinks. I'm kinda pissed but its tough when you have a job like Arthur has.
Edited by Trogdor - 11/13/12 at 7:38pm
post #7618 of 16292
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Soup, really, I mean really? You basically just said to me that Cormorant has broken up. It doesn't quite shock me given the fact that they don't have a label (or want one from last I checked). But this is really really sad if this is true....

 

They arent breaking up though, they are continuing to release music under the name Cormorant, and im sure ill still listen to it, but i just dont have high hopes.

 

But i also dont have high hopes for The Black Dahlia Murder now that Shannon Lucas is gone...just look at All That Remains, their only good cd was The Fall of Ideals, which was the only one that he drummed on...though i doubt that TBDM will go the way of ATR lol shannon lucas is my favorite metal drummer out there

post #7619 of 16292
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not only no pressing plant, but no conversion to analog using their "professional" DACs, or the horrid chain of events known as a TT rig -_- id much rather listen directly out of a high end DAC in hi res at home..

 

 

also i dont know why i didnt think to check here first, but the DR database came to the rescue, heres the HD Tracks release http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=29375 vs the cd release http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=29219 that makes me so sad, cuase im not really a believer in hi res, but i am a believer in less $hitty masters, this just happens to be the way to get them...

 

You're preaching to the choir. As I said in my article on vinyl http://www.metal-fi.com/why-you-should-care-about-vinyl/ it''s mostly a pain in the ass format but in many cases its simply the only way to listen to an album where it isn't ruined by hyper compression. Aside from largely eliminating the linear phase/minimum phase/apodising filter argument as a concern, I think high-res does very little. It's harmless though (or at least 24/96 is, there's evidence that 24/192 actually makes things sound worse) and usually high-res files have much less compression which I'm all for.

post #7620 of 16292
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Originally Posted by DaveBSC View Post

 

You're preaching to the choir. As I said in my article on vinyl http://www.metal-fi.com/why-you-should-care-about-vinyl/ it''s mostly a pain in the ass format but in many cases its simply the only way to listen to an album where it isn't ruined by hyper compression. Aside from largely eliminating the linear phase/minimum phase/apodising filter argument as a concern, I think high-res does very little. It's harmless though (or at least 24/96 is, there's evidence that 24/192 actually makes things sound worse) and usually high-res files have much less compression which I'm all for.

 

thats fair, the easier digital filters, and its true that it doesnt hurt anything, and HDD space is cheap. hence why i dont really complain.

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