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post #7411 of 16814

We have some Crowbar fans in here?

 

 


Edited by Origin89 - 10/26/12 at 3:43pm
post #7412 of 16814
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It's good that Apple is taking some initiative to better quality, but it does appear as if they're planning to cross the line into artistic creativity. Hopefully some middle-ground can be found.

agreed, but IMO middle ground isn't in the Apple vocabulary.  i think the best we can hope for is encouraging the hi res files to be released in other formats as well, through not-apple mediums.

post #7413 of 16814
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We have some Crowbar fans in here?

 

 

really enjoyed "sever the wicked hand", great southern influenced sludge.  makes me miss pantera ;)

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Yea, I'm from New Orleans, so that Southern Sludge has a place in my heart.

post #7415 of 16814

For those of you who thought Wintersun's album was too short, or maybe even disappointed, (and fans of Chthonic)... these guys should easily tide you over. Props to metal bandcamp for the reference. :) Melodic black metal. From China, no less!

 


Edited by vaed - 10/26/12 at 5:04pm
post #7416 of 16814

Love Crowbar, been stuck on Sever the Wicked Hand here lately. On a slightly related note, i saw Down perform last month. Warbeast and haarp opened, awesome to say the least

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It's good that Apple is taking some initiative to better quality, but it does appear as if they're planning to cross the line into artistic creativity. Hopefully some middle-ground can be found.

We hope so. Interesting enough, if you read those guidelines, Apple actually defines dynamic compression as a form of "artistic expression" but shuns clipping.
post #7418 of 16814
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I'm glad you took the time to find that cute little pic on the internet... shows some incentive. Since we've shifted gears... I think you're forgetting that we're on a High-Fidelity website, so I don't know why you're surprised that there's a couple people in here that aren't too crazy about recordings that sound like utter ****. Now, I'm strictly talking about that Slam Death video you posted. Dorsal Atlantica wasn't bad. I like to be able to tell that they're playing instruments and it's not a recording of some tin-foil in a microwave.

 

The recording is a part of the delivery, it's akin to being upset that a musician used too much distortion on his/her guitar, even if the baseline music is amazing, it seems odd to write it off because it's not of pristine quality.  I'm not saying you have to enjoy it, but to say, "I hate this song because the recording sucks," makes no sense to me.  I just don't see how the recording quality should effect the acceptance or rejection of the song itself.  

 

Prog metal simply does not appeal to me, I have no emotional connection with it, so I don't care how well it's recorded or produced, if the song sucks (to me), then the song sucks.  As someone who's recorded in a studio, I can appreciate the time and care that go into making an awesome sounding record, but it's an after thought when listening to an album.

 

Glad you enjoyed the picture, I found it quite humorous and apt.

 

Also, I hope this isn't coming off completely serious, and that you're having as much fun with this as I am, that said, YOUR OPINIONS SUCK!

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No, especially not if it has hardcore punk elements in it and sounds like it was recorded on a 20 year old compact cassette. wink.gif

 

I also prefer music with lyrics that I understand and that are not about the sky daddy's adversary or other ridiculous beliefs.

 

So you don't like thrash, which has many elements of NWOBHM as well as punk and what was then called hardcore?  Which could then be said to be the stepping stone to death metal and all it's variations.  No grind or grindcore, Napalm Death is awesome, but oh well, too punk.  

 

What metal lyrics aren't centered around ridiculous beliefs?  Satanism, suicide, fantasy novels, sci-fi and horror movies, nordic gods, the list goes on.

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It's good that Apple is taking some initiative to better quality, but it does appear as if they're planning to cross the line into artistic creativity. Hopefully some middle-ground can be found.

 

How so? I mean, what does production quality have to do with artistic creativity? I briefly read Apple's guidelines and it looked like all technical stuff. Preserve 24/96, avoid clipping, etc.

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The recording is a part of the delivery, it's akin to being upset that a musician used too much distortion on his/her guitar, even if the baseline music is amazing, it seems odd to write it off because it's not of pristine quality.  I'm not saying you have to enjoy it, but to say, "I hate this song because the recording sucks," makes no sense to me.  I just don't see how the recording quality should effect the acceptance or rejection of the song itself.  

 

Prog metal simply does not appeal to me, I have no emotional connection with it, so I don't care how well it's recorded or produced, if the song sucks (to me), then the song sucks.  As someone who's recorded in a studio, I can appreciate the time and care that go into making an awesome sounding record, but it's an after thought when listening to an album.

 

Glad you enjoyed the picture, I found it quite humorous and apt.

 

Also, I hope this isn't coming off completely serious, and that you're having as much fun with this as I am, that said, YOUR OPINIONS SUCK!

 

 

Amazingly, I remember when Hellbent For Leather by Judas Priest came out in 1979. Or even Cat Scratch Fever in 1978! There were new recording processes and effects that sounded new and very clear. Even Lovedrive by The Scorpions was an audio revelation, being better sounding than most records up to that point. So in the early days metal was totally audiophile and even though you can go back and be surprised by the recordings, time has taken it's toll and recording techniques have passed up those early rock/metal albums.

 

That said, some metal now can be recorded and have a great lo/fi metal sound. Because of the underground quality of some bands, they are never going to get a first rate producer and access to a studio to make an album like Lovedrive. There just as good of musicians and somehow the underground dirty/quality makes the album great. It really does not matter that you can record 40 tracks with effects on a $300.00 computer as to engineer an album is more than that.

 

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Originally Posted by RubberDuk View Post



I guess this isn't really metal as such, but I'm thinking the song will go down better here than in the electronic music thread:

 

Psyclon Nine was great THANKS!!


Edited by Redcarmoose - 10/26/12 at 9:27pm
post #7423 of 16814
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We have some Crowbar fans in here?

 


Crowbar: The band that eats away at your soul as you listen.

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Reminds me of Game of Thrones, Fairies, Rapunzel, and Unicorns

post #7425 of 16814
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Originally Posted by samsquanch View Post

 

The recording is a part of the delivery, it's akin to being upset that a musician used too much distortion on his/her guitar, even if the baseline music is amazing, it seems odd to write it off because it's not of pristine quality.  I'm not saying you have to enjoy it, but to say, "I hate this song because the recording sucks," makes no sense to me.  I just don't see how the recording quality should effect the acceptance or rejection of the song itself.  

 

Prog metal simply does not appeal to me, I have no emotional connection with it, so I don't care how well it's recorded or produced, if the song sucks (to me), then the song sucks.  As someone who's recorded in a studio, I can appreciate the time and care that go into making an awesome sounding record, but it's an after thought when listening to an album.

 

Glad you enjoyed the picture, I found it quite humorous and apt.

 

Also, I hope this isn't coming off completely serious, and that you're having as much fun with this as I am, that said, YOUR OPINIONS SUCK!

 

Yea, I understand the recording is part of the delivery. I just get nothing from ultra low-fi, potato recordings.

 

But yea, no hard feelings (I know, "no hard feelings isn't metal"). There's still something likable about you even though your taste in music is second rate.

 

 

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How so? I mean, what does production quality have to do with artistic creativity? I briefly read Apple's guidelines and it looked like all technical stuff. Preserve 24/96, avoid clipping, etc.

 

It looks good on paper now. But knowing how big companies are, I wouldn't want them to continue reaching for power while putting more regulations on the artist - making them tarnish their original vision to follow some specific quality guideline in order for them to sell their music on iTunes.


Edited by Origin89 - 10/27/12 at 7:35am
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