Lets Talk Metal - Page 175

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Originally Posted by jasonb 

i'm into metal and progressive stuff, anybody want to recommend me some stuff based on my lastfm profile?

 

Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever

Neal Morse - ?

Edge of Sanity - Crimson

Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian 

A.C.T - Last Epic

maudlin of the Well - Bath 

Crimson Glory - Transcendence

Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors 

Shining - V - Halmstad

Falconer - Falconer

funny, never seen Trans and Neal tagged as metal

still great stuff tho.

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Originally Posted by scytheavatar 

 

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Originally Posted by jasonb 

i'm into metal and progressive stuff, anybody want to recommend me some stuff based on my lastfm profile?

 

Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever

Neal Morse - ?

Edge of Sanity - Crimson

Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian 

A.C.T - Last Epic

maudlin of the Well - Bath 

Crimson Glory - Transcendence

Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors 

Shining - V - Halmstad

Falconer - Falconer

 

funny, never seen Trans and Neal tagged as metal

still great stuff tho.

He never said that he wanted metal, he just wanted "some stuff based on my lastfm profile".

has anyone checked out the new Mechina cd "conqueror"? highly recommended.....

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Originally Posted by Negakinu 

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Originally Posted by DaveBSC 

 

The song itself I don't think is bad.

 

Not to offend, but Devildriver are, to me, the textbook example of mediocrity in metal. Everything about them is so generic and predictable. All I hear is Protools, some quantized riffs and beats glued together with that wannabe Dez shouting through the compressor set to +11. There is no songwriting! Even the bandname is silly. "DUR DUR I LIKE DEVILS DUR DUR AND I HAVE A CAR DUR DUR". I always imagine Devildriver to appeal most to same demography that has an Insane Clown Posse shirt lying around somewhere. And not in an ironic way. 

 

In that same genre, I think Lamb of God era "Ashes of the Wake" is so much better. Or even the first Unearth release. 

 

I noticed I keep burning everyone's favourite band lately. I'm sorry. It's just what I do. I am das brutals. 

Go see them live.  They sound better live than any other bad I've seen.  Every other band I have heard is just a wall of noise, and all I can hear is ringing in my ears.  Devildriver sounds better than  their cd's live.  Jon Miller and Jeff Kendrick were really cool guys got to talk to them outside their tour bus in Chicago.  

Also, the name devildriver has nothing to do with the devil.  A devildriver is something that is used in italy (where dez is from) to ward off evil spirits.  That's enough of my obsession with this band for now.  

I know Kvarforth is kinda hard to swallow for a lot of people but I fucking love the guy. He may have made some bad decisions, like getting fat  and singing with Bethlehem, but he's an amazing frontman with some truely creative energy. A rare feat in black metal nowadays. Did I mention he bled all over me once? Hospital says I'm fine. 

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Listening to the Kvelertak album now.  They're not bad, I can imagine enjoying them at a gig after a few ales.  Actually the music would have far greater impact in a live setting, i.e. it would be relatively clear sounding and easy to follow.  Nothing too memorable though.  They sound like a young band that may improve with maturity.  They should take a few more lessons from 'The Book of Charisma' by Kyuss and change things up some more.  A new vocalist with some range would be a huge leap forward too.  I don't mind bm vocals per se, but like anything they can get monotonous.

 

I'm sorry if that dissapoints you Trogdor, it's about as honest and objective as I can be.  The bottom line for me is, will I still be listening to and enjoying this in a few years?  I have honed my ears for this purpose for many years and they are always open and receptive for the rare occasion that something special comes along.  Everything else falls by the wayside.

No biggie dude, its all good.  I just want honesty from you.  I actually agree with you that the album is a little monotonous at times.  I do think though they show a lot of talent.

I agree with you completely regarding an artist's endurance.  I mean one's music tastes do change over time, but everyone has their metal roots.  If you got really serious about it and graphed how you got from one artist to another, I am sure it would yield some very revealing aspects about your tastes.  I've always wondered if sites like Pandora use these kinds of music modeling techniques and/or heuristics to figure out that if you like Insominum you will probably also dig Opeth, Agalloch, and Swallow The Sun.  It seems obvious but modeling choices really do involve sophisticated data mining techniques (think Amazon's Recommendations feature). 

I digress...

I got to tell you, I am *really* digging Orphaned Land's Mabool - The Story of The Three Sons of Seven.  This is just an unbelievable epic album both in music and subject.  I think someone posted a YouTube! link a couple of pages back...THANK YOU!  :-)

Alright, alright, onto Allegaeon for Soup's sake...

Hello all.  New here.

Just like to say thanks to

Negakinu

for pointing this thread out to me.  I am liking what I see here.  Seems to be a lot of Opeth fans which is real cool. 

So my favorite albums of 2010 are in no order:

Nachtmystium - Addicts: Black Meddle Part II

A Forest of Stars - Opportunistic Thieves of Spring

Agalloch - Marrow of the Spirit

Twilight - Monument to the End of time

Alter of Plagues - Tides

Rosetta - A Determinism of Morality

Mouth of the Architect - The Violence Beneath

Angel Eyes - Midwestern

I also really like the music of:

Isis

Wolves in the Throne Room

Opeth

Maudlin of the Well

Gojira

Meshuggah

Tool

My Dying Bride

Swallow the Sun

Ludicra

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For those of you who dig Opeth I encourage you to check out Klabautamann from Germany, a very good band.

Also thank you to Negakinu for showing the Lunar Aurora videos I really liked the band.

So I also need a good pair of headphones for this type of music ^^^^^  Any suggestions?  I really want to stay under 200.  I was thinking Fischer DBA-02 or maybe some Q-jays?  I am really new to good headphones as I have always just bought crappy $ony headphones at Target or some other cheap store.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by qualm 

So I also need a good pair of headphones for this type of music ^^^^^  Any suggestions?  I really want to stay under 200.  I was thinking Fischer DBA-02 or maybe some Q-jays?  I am really new to good headphones as I have always just bought crappy $ony headphones at Target or some other cheap store.

 

 

Thanks.

 

Look for used stuff as you can stretch your dollar much further that way. There's always plenty of headphones for sale here, or you could try eBay. Before buying I would suggest trying several different pairs to see if anything in particular appeals to you. I have a pretty good idea of how most of the full size cans sound, but I'm really not familiar with earbuds and IEMs so others will probably be a lot more helpful with those.

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Originally Posted by qualm 

So I also need a good pair of headphones for this type of music ^^^^^  Any suggestions?  I really want to stay under 200.  I was thinking Fischer DBA-02 or maybe some Q-jays?  I am really new to good headphones as I have always just bought crappy $ony headphones at Target or some other cheap store.

 

 

Thanks.

 

It's always a bit tricky to recommend IEMs for metal. There are so many different genres that could potentially require different headphones. For example, a lot of people that listen to modern, overly compressed metal (or loudness-core as I call it) seem to enjoy a bassy and fun signature like, for example, the Moster Turbines provide. That's probably why you see a lot of those fashioncore dudes wearing Skullcandy and Beats. Others are more about the details and the treble. A well amped RE0 or the DBA-02 are great examples of this signature. They do lack that bass some metalheads like though.

The overall concensus though seems to be that the Hippo VB is an excellent IEM for metal. Basically you're looking for an IEM that provides detailed highs, strong mids but keeps it's bass-punch without sounding boomy or muddy. Soundstage for me is less important for metal because of the way the genre is being produced nowadays. For jazz or classical a wide and deep soundstage is more important to me.

Actually my favourite headphone ever for metal isn't an IEM. It's the Sennheiser HD25-1 II. I even prefer this closed headphone to my open Grados. This is only because I haven't heard the Audeze LCD-2 yet though. 

Long story short, you can't go wrong with any of these IEMs:

- Hippo VB

- Brainwavz M2

- Brainwavz M3

- Radius DDM (sound signature suits metal but beware of their comfort. The comfort didn't bother me btw. Excellent IEM.) 

- Fischer Audio DBA-02 (amp it for bass punch!)

- RE0 (amp it for bass punch!)

And like I posted a few pages back, I really like the Brainwavz ProAlpha for black metal. My favourite albums of last year resemble yours so I think you might like 'em too. They're disgustingly cheap as well. :) 

I just went crazy on Amazon and the store at Southern Lord.  The Australian dollar is king at the moment and it's a great opportunity for us to buy at decent prices.  Cds bought at shops here cost around $30, which is bloody outrageous imo.  Turned me into a free music junky for a while, legit  Anyways this is what I ordered:

From Amazon

Meshuggah -Destroy Erase Improve & Chaosphere Reloaded & Nothing (shamefully, I haven't owned any Meshuggah until now)

Bohren und der Club of Gore - Geisterfaust & Dolores (beautiful doomy jazz, chilled, dark and lovely)

John Zorn - What Thou Wilt & Interzone & Ipsissimus (demented jazz-thrash assassin, one of the greatest modern composers of the last twenty years)

Isahn - After

From Southern Lord

Sunn O))) - White 2 & Black One & Monoliths and Dimensions (vinyl)

Boris - Smile (it's hard rock, man)

Oren Ambarchi - In the Pendulums Embrace (double vinyl, experimental guitar feedback noise & dreamy soundscapes)

Eagle Twin - The Unkindness of Crows

Ascend - Ample Fire Within (double vinyl)

Khanate - Things Viral (depressive, violent and very dirty)

Toadliquor - The Hortators Lament (filth, just filth.  Thanks nickosiris;)

Some samples:

EagleTwin_MurderOf...

Ascend_AmpleFireWithin

Toadliquor_Charred

I'm looking forward to breaking the drought of new studio music listening.  I strongly recommend listening to the Ascend track, freakin awesome.

Bohren und der Club of Gore! I love them! My favourite albums by them are "Sunset Mission" and "Gore Motel". Check out Angelo Badalamenti's soundtrack to "Twin Peaks" and "Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me" for a Bohren-vibe! :) You could also try Friends of Dean Martinez.

Nice, seems we have some in common.  I have Black Earth, which is regular late night listening for me.  Brilliant album.  The video for Midnight, Black Earth is extremely cool too, except that it is an edited version of the song and poor sq on the toob.  Simple but effective visuals.  Actually it's one of my favourite pieces ever.  Absolutely killer opening track.  The bass sound just envelopes you...

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Originally Posted by qualm 

 

Agalloch - Marrow of the Spirit

 

Interestingly enough, this album is constantly listed as a best of or worst of 2010.  It seems to have a love it or hate it attitude.  My guess is because it didn't evolve The Mantle sound that much.

On a side note, once again I tip my hat to DaveBSC - Evemaster III is a fantastic album.  Much better than the DT release IMO.

Allegaeon's Fragments I am also really digging.  I think its not that original per se, but it executes the Meshuggah signature very well.  I call it poppy Meshuggah (I know, its unfair).  But they sprinkle in a lot of catchy riffs in between some odd ball timing.  My favorite track so far is Across The Folded Line:

+1 for ambarchi, sunn O))) and khanate. Gotta love southern lord. But still, has anyone listened to earth's angels of darkness, demons of light yet?