Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude
Re: torrents, I find a strange irony of people on a forum dedicated to spending a lot of money on audio hardware not willing to spend money on the music that hardware is supposed to be enhancing...
You've probably seen when I mentioned I spent tens of thousands of dollars on music.
Originally Posted by Ike1985
I am philosophically opposed to IP law. If someone buys a cd they can copy it and share it with whoever they want-they own it and its their property. If you own something you can destroy it, if you can destroy it then you can certainly share it. No one has a right to theoretical profits. Also, i do spend money on artists I like by going to their shows.
Without intellectual property rights, (modern) society couldn't even function. (I shouldn't need to provide examples, since they're endless.)
There are limited resources on this planet, and they have value.
Artists invest their much more limited resources—time, energy, and money—into creating their art. It is something that they created, that they own, and that they can choose to give away or sell. It's their property that they license out to record labels and consumers.
Many of them do this for a living and rely upon it for sustenance.
Albums cost money to produce, ranging from a few hundred dollars to millions.
And that's just producing the music itself. You still have to manufacture and market it, which can cost a heck of a lot more.
Metal musicians make far less money than mainstream ones. Even some of the more popular metal musicians only make an average middle class income from it. The record labels often take advantage of them too, so in some cases they get significantly less money than they would if they had sold it through more direct mediums like Bandcamp. (It's hard to tell, though, but generally, without the labels promoting them, most "established" artists probably wouldn't be nearly as popular.)
It's not merely theoretical profits; it's actual profits that occur when people buy their music.
When you buy music, it is under a personal use license. If it's a physical disc, you can legally let someone borrow the original. You can also legally make copies (both physical and digital) for personal use.
But distributing those copies without authorization is different. When you do so, not only are you violating the personal use license provided by the producers, you are, more importantly, robbing the people in that industry from much of the fruits of their labor and preventing them from making untold earnings from all their hard work.
For the record, I do like the idea of everything being free, but it's just a fantasy that can't work in the real world.
Originally Posted by Zyklonius
Man oh man, this is something incredible.
@Music Alchemist - I reckon this should be up your alley?
Thanks for thinking of me! Interesting stuff. Reminds me of DHG's Supervillain Outcast in some parts. I like the production too.