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I know right! I'm on my third listen today (bandcamp sent me the FLAC, I'll be waiting for a month for my actual CD in Canada) but it's just damned good and really multi layered. I can promise this will be making my end of year list but I guess it helps I'm a huuuuuge Wrest fan. It's a dream of mine to get a tattoo from Jef one day!


I'm definitely going to put leviathan on my short list. I'm also cautiously optimistic about In Times even though I was less crazy about In Ritiir.

 

On the earlier Opeth posts, they are a band that certainly bring out passionate opinions. Myself, I can think of a handful of bands that were defining game changers in my heavy listening over the past decade. These are just bands that made me rethink music or took me in different directions in terms of my personal listening. I'm not saying they are definitive by any stretch beyond my own tastes.

 

Quickly I'd probably list Kyuss, Electric Wizard, Isis/Neurois (they're the same band, right:bigsmile_face:), Dark Tranquility, Behemoth, anything Martin Van Drunnen's been associated with, Immortal, Gorgoroth, Marduk, Cult of Luna, Converge. Just some touchstones in my own evolving tastes in metal. Just random thoughts.

 

And, yes, Opeth-they are up there. For me it was Ghost Reveries and Blackwater Park. Really important albums in my own evolving tastes. I think not unlike Nirvana in a completely different way that the heavy/light sounds from those albums were an important quotient that's lacking in their pure prog-it's the dramatic swing from tasteful to sledgehammer that I craved. The extremity were like exclamation points or profanity on an otherwise articulate, thoughtful sentence.

 

But, I do think Pale Communion-while not metal-is an excellent album. If I like Yes's Fragile or Rush's Moving Pictures or King Crimson or Porcupine Tree's In Abstentia or Steven Wilson's Why The Raven.....why wouldn't I like Pale Communion? It might even b as good as BWP and GR which are two of my favorite albums. But it still lacks that certain edge many of us liked. I haven't listened to their earlier stuff and I should.

 

One thing I find interesting on Headfi which perhaps speaks to audiophile listeners is how many people I've seen post Opeth on "what are  you listening to now" like threads-who I don't associate with metal. So, it seems they are somewhat of a crossover band in that regard which except for Sunbather is pretty unusual in extreme metal.

 

Look, if some audiophile listener out there who has a steady diet of Miles Davis and Steely Dan and doesn't listen to ANY extreme metal and then goes out and listens to BWP, I give you some props!


Edited by markm1 - Yesterday at 10:17 am
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And, yes, Opeth-they are up there. For me it was Ghost Reveries and Blackwater Park. . . . But, I do think Pale Communion-while not metal-is an excellent album. Maybe almost as good as BWP and GR which are two of my favorite albums. But it still lacks that certain edge most of liked. I haven't listened to their earlier stuff and I should.

 

One thing I find interesting on Headfi which perhaps speaks to audiophile listeners is how many people I've seen post on "what are  you listening to know" like threads Opeth who I don't associate with metal. So, it seems they are somewhat of a crossover band in that regard which except for Sunbather is pretty unusual in extreme metal. If you don't listen to ANY extreme metal and you go out and listen to BWP, I give you some props!

Those three are probably my favorite Opeth albums, actually: Ghost Reveries, Pale Communion, and Blackwater Park—possibly in that order.  I'm really shocked at how good PC turned out to be.  It's not metal but it's exceptionally good and well-produced music.

 

Funny fact about Opeth and me: I'm a bit of a writer, or at least I am from time to time.  Back in undergrad I entered a fourteen-college creative writing competition with an essay about my love for music, which focused broadly on metal in the beginning and narrowly on Opeth's "Blackwater Park" in the end.  The theme of the essay was "your favorite place" and I approached it abstractly, from more of a cognitive-spiritual perspective.  I ended up winning that contest, taking first place and receiving $500 for my essay.  It was published by my college and I delivered public readings of it to a group of faculty on my college campus and at a small banquet held at the local botanical garden.  That was easily among my favorite memories of undergrad.

 

Interestingly enough, I was approached by one of the English professors after I gave my first reading while wearing an Opeth shirt.  He told me that he's a huge fan of the band, and prog in general, and that the moment he saw my shirt he expected something great even without knowing the content of my essay.  He was really cool.

 

Edit: I challenge anyone who hates metal to listen to "Face of Melinda," "Windowpane," "Harvest," "Isolation Years," "Burden," "Pyre," and "Eternal Rains Will Come" and tell me Mikael Åkerfeldt isn't a brilliant composer/musician.


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Interestingly enough, I was approached by one of the English professors after I gave my first reading while wearing an Opeth shirt.  He told me that he's a huge fan of the band, and prog in general, and that the moment he saw my shirt he expected something great even without knowing the content of my essay.  He was really cool.

 

 

Nice! I'm sure there are a lot of closeted Opeth fans out there that don't fit the metal demographic. The again, I don't know how many  49 year old HS teachers married with children (that would be me) listen to any of this stuff. Maybe more than any of us would guess:veryevil:

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Nice! I'm sure there are a lot of closeted Opeth fans out there that don't fit the metal demographic. The again, I don't know how many  49 year old HS teachers married with children (that would be me) listen to any of this stuff. Maybe more than any of us would guess:veryevil:

Well, I'm a 34-year-old social work grad student married to a 42-year-old high school English teacher, and we're both Opeth fans. We've got thee kids, ages 14, 12, and 3, come late March. Of the two of us, I'm the serious metal fan, though.

So there's that.
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Great riffs here. 

 

Chaos Divine

 

I just found this video. Never heard of the band before, but the album comes out in 3 days and this song has me hyped! The vocals sound a little bit generic but I think I'll get past it.

 

 

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Edit: I challenge anyone who hates metal to listen to "Face of Melinda," "Windowpane," "Harvest," "Isolation Years," "Burden," "Pyre," and "Eternal Rains Will Come" and tell me Mikael Åkerfeldt isn't a brilliant composer/musician.

 

I'm not sure I get your point--those aren't metal songs. But add Hours of Wealth while you're at it. :wink_face: 

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I'm not sure I get your point--those aren't metal songs. But add Hours of Wealth while you're at it. wink_face.gif  

My point was that even people who hate metal can find not only one Opeth track they're able to love, but enough of them to admit their front man is a genius.

"Hours of Wealth" made my original list but I was including only one song per album and I favor "Isolation Years".
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For the downloaders out there, Agonia Records' Bandcamp is having a sale all month... every album is just $3! This includes the new Origin.

 

https://agoniarecords.bandcamp.com/

 

I grabbed five albums last night, a few without even having heard before, and just about all of them are at least good, with a couple being really good.

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no more cancer please, RCM

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OK-no more Opething for me.  And, I'm not a huge fanboy, just run of the mill fan.

 

On to manly metal. Well, not really. Out of boredom I see In Times is getting some ho hum reviews. Has anyone heard the whole thing?

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OK-no more Opething for me.  And, I'm not a huge fanboy, just run of the mill fan.

On to manly metal. Well, not really. Out of boredom I see In Times is getting some ho hum reviews. Has anyone heard the whole thing?


It was on my list to due tonight but I never got to it. To much new stuff. I posted a link to the full ( In Times) album stream on a previous post. The whole thing is on you- tube.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IwvcXnDl1GM HERE


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I love Opeth too, but I do wish they would re-embrace death metal. MAYH is easily my favorite album

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