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Music searching in the late 1990s was so different. You had the radio, you had concerts, you had some CDs on the cover of magazines. I read this great review of Chaosphere when it came out in1998.

Picked up the CD and it was like WTF.

I had tolerated most extreme metal but this was in off keys, math time signatures. I tried but did not get it? I wanted to like it but was not ready. In so many ways now the joke is that all their songs sound the same. They even have a YouTube video with whole albums in reverse, still sound the same.

The title track to Obzen has the most complicated drumming I have ever heard. I don't play the drums but it just seems tough. They kind of do it live? Still the album has something else to it.

So you do get it all. A new type of beat your not sick of, obscure lyrics you will never figure out 3/4 of, but when you do it could be deep? The recording quality is good and the band is consistent. Once you understand where they are coming from it starts to get entertaining. I like everything after Catch33 the best, though I know that there are folks into the old stuff.

 

I delight in weird ****, so I pretty much loved Meshuggah from the get-go.

 

A few random tracks I like: Sane, Spasm, I, Shed, Combustion, Bleed, The Demon's Name Is Surveillance.

 

I'm assuming all Meshuggah fans have heard Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects.

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Nope, have to check that album out.
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Trap them plays it fairly close to the chest (style wise) but am a fan of the old Entombed vibe, their recent album had plenty of that.

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post
 

 

I delight in weird ****, so I pretty much loved Meshuggah from the get-go.

 

A few random tracks I like: Sane, Spasm, I, Shed, Combustion, Bleed, The Demon's Name Is Surveillance.

 

I'm assuming all Meshuggah fans have heard Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects.

Had it since release!!! Sol ****** Within...

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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose View Post


Yes, I purchased my first Meshuggah in 1996 and returned it right after as I could not get into it. They are a band that slowly grows on you the more years you hear them. Their best record is maybe Catch 33, and it's a great gateway record.

Everyone is luke warm in the beginning.


So, I've got an MP3 of Erase, Destroy and  on CD-Obzen and Koloss which I basically like, but kind of like some experimental jazz or classical that maybe I know is good and critics love, I have to make myself listen to it and almost study it. I sort of lump them into proggy death metal-even tho I know they are considered progressive thrash.

 

What I meant about their vocals, is not that extreme vocals are bad, but that on live recordings some extreme vocalists don't sound like the recordings. Like they can't deliver it live. But that sounded pretty close to the studio sound of the vox.

 

So technical and mathish like they're from a different planet. Maybe Asperger's or somewhere no the Autism spectrum :bigsmile_face:

 

But such a different listening experience to my go to DM bands that just make me want to bang my head (Jungle Rot, Asphyx, At The Gates/Haunted/Grave/DT/Entombed/Vader/Behemoth)

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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose View Post

Nope, have to check that album out.

 

I was going to say you have to, but you beat me to it. :p

 

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Originally Posted by vipervick View Post
 

Had it since release!!! Sol ****** Within...

This guy knows what's up. :beerchug:

 

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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post
 

So, I've got an MP3 of Erase, Destroy and  on CD-Obzen and Koloss which I basically like, but kind of like some experimental jazz or classical that maybe I know is good and critics love, I have to make myself listen to it and almost study it. I sort of lump them into proggy death metal-even tho I know they are considered progressive thrash.

 

What I meant about their vocals, is not that extreme vocals are bad, but that on live recordings some extreme vocalists don't sound like the recordings. Like they can't deliver it live. But that sounded pretty close to the studio sound of the vox.

 

So technical and mathish like they're from a different planet. Maybe Asperger's or somewhere no the Autism spectrum :bigsmile_face:

 

But such a different listening experience to my go to DM bands that just make me want to bang my head (Jungle Rot, Asphyx, At The Gates/Haunted/Grave/DT/Entombed/Vader/Behemoth)

 

You might like the side project discussed in the other quotes.

 

P.S. Behemoth is great!

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So, I've got an MP3 of Erase, Destroy and  on CD-Obzen and Koloss which I basically like, but kind of like some experimental jazz or classical that maybe I know is good and critics love, I have to make myself listen to it and almost study it. I sort of lump them into proggy death metal-even tho I know they are considered progressive thrash.

 

They invented the Djent genre single handed.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djent

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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose View Post


Yes, I purchased my first Meshuggah in 1996 and returned it right after as I could not get into it. They are a band that slowly grows on you the more years you hear them. Their best record is maybe Catch 33, and it's a great gateway record.

Everyone is luke warm in the beginning.

This is scary. How can you be so correct all the time? :D Catch 33 was my first and still my favourite.

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Originally Posted by Kirnupiima View Post
 

This is scary. How can you be so correct all the time? :D Catch 33 was my first and still my favourite.

 

I remember when I got that album. I was at The Florida Mall in a CD shop. There was an open box lying on the ground. I looked inside, and lo and behold, it was the new Meshuggah album that wasn't supposed to come out until a week or two! (They let me buy it.)

 

By the way, here is a high quality image of the cover artwork. You can't find it anywhere else on the Internet.

 

 

Feel free to download it to tag your files with the art. Just open the original image in a new tab.

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Whoa. New Soilwork EP entitled Beyond The Infinite was released September 24th, exclusively in Japan.

 

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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post
 

 

I remember when I got that album. I was at The Florida Mall in a CD shop. There was an open box lying on the ground. I looked inside, and lo and behold, it was the new Meshuggah album that wasn't supposed to come out until a week or two! (They let me buy it.)

 

By the way, here is a high quality image of the cover artwork. You can't find it anywhere else on the Internet.

 

 

Feel free to download it to tag your files with the art. Just open the original image in a new tab.

Meshuggah and Gojira are both really good live. Almost two years ago, I had mentioned in the same thread that Jens Kidman was one of my favorite vocalist. His growling has this special signatur and it seems so effortless.

 

When Meshuggah came to Bangalore, I was screaming ' Closed Eyed Visual' but they didnt play this song :(

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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose View Post
 

They invented the Djent genre single handed.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djent

 

and I don't hold it against them

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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post

Whoa. New Soilwork EP entitled Beyond The Infinite was released September 24th, exclusively in Japan.





They are just not a really good band anymore. I really don't know what happened.
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Originally Posted by Trogdor View Post

They are just not a really good band anymore. I really don't know what happened.

 

Quality is subjective. :wink:

 

Although I own all their albums, I find it more difficult to get into their older material.

 

(And I have no problem with more extreme music, since I enjoy raw black metal more than most other metal genres.)

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Quality is subjective. wink.gif

Although I own all their albums, I find it more difficult to get into their older material.

Agreed, IMO they sound as good as ever and they haven't gone soft on us, like, say, In Flames.
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