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Has anyone heard any bands similar to Fallujah. Please do not mention tech death bands like Beyond Creation, Archspire, Vale of Pnath, Abiotic, Obscura, Anamolous etc.

 

The only one I think is a little similar is Aegeon but then that is more Deathcore.

 

What people call, Atmospheric Technical/Death Metal

Perhaps The Arcane Order?

 

 

 


Edited by vaed - 6/26/14 at 5:08pm
post #14972 of 25547
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Originally Posted by wrathzombie View Post
 

Has anyone heard any bands similar to Fallujah. Please do not mention tech death bands like Beyond Creation, Archspire, Vale of Pnath, Abiotic, Obscura, Anamolous etc.

The only one I think is a little similar is Aegeon but then that is more Deathcore.

What people call, Atmospheric Technical/Death Metal

I really can't think of one...

 


My highlights of 2014:

Cynic - Kindly Bent to Free Us
Saor - Aura
Lantlôs - Melting Sun
Paramnesia - Paramnesia
Origin- Omnipresent
Harakiri For The Sky - Aokigahara

So many more great albums to come ♥

post #14973 of 25547
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post
 

Thanks Fellas-I think I'll definitely pick up Atlas Moth (liked their last one) and Mayhem.

 

Atlas Moth is different... I liked the last one a lot better. This one lacks the melodic stoner riffs and feels more like straightforward sludge, but it's still good.

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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose View Post


With Trap Them I think you have to be into that sound. The last album I purchased by them was their second album in 2008. They had done a good job at capturing Entombed's guitar tone by duplicating the amp brands and settings? Then they mixed it with some American hardcore as Converge. I heard the stream of the new album and could not get into it, but maybe it's just me. Just not into that style anymore.


http://m.noisey.vice.com/blog/stream-trap-thems-bliss****er-lp


Link still there but Headfi will not allow post due to language.
http://m.noisey.vice.com/blog/stream-trap-thems-bliss****er-lp


Actually-I liked Trap Them's last album, Dark Handcraft. This style peaked my interest around the time Converge put out Axe to Fall. Took me a few listens with the hardcore vocals and then I just started to like it. Never really listened to hardcore before.....so after reading a couple of reviews I picked up  Black Breath, Trap Them, All Pigs Must Die.

 

Yeah-they all kind of sound the same (LOL!) Not really , but kinda yeah. Black Breath is a little different IMO-interesting mix of styles. Your description is right on-entombed guitar sound mixed with a really pretty obvious Converge influence---entombedcore?

 

A little goes a long way. But, for pure aggressiveness-when you want to break schiit-I likes....in limited doses.

 

Are you still listening to Behemoth or were they more of a flavor of the week? I'm a fan of Demigod and The Apostasy...but then they sort of fell off my radar.


Edited by markm1 - 6/26/14 at 9:02pm
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Actually-I liked Trap Them's last album, Dark Handcraft. This style peaked my interest around the time Converge put out Axe to Fall. Took me a few listens with the hardcore vocals and then I just started to like it. Never really listened to hardcore before.....so after reading a couple of reviews I picked up  Black Breath, Trap Them, All Pigs Must Die.

Yeah-they all kind of sound the same (LOL!) Not really , but kinda yeah. Black Breath is a little different IMO-interesting mix of styles. Your description is right on-entombed guitar sound mixed with a really pretty obvious Converge influence---entombedcore?

A little goes a long way. But, for pure aggressiveness-when you want to break schiit-I likes....in limited doses.

Are you still listening to Behemoth or were they more of a flavor of the week? I'm a fan of Demigod and The Apostasy...but then they sort of fell off my radar.


No I like the recording actually which fits the kind of listener I am. If they do a drum accent and put it in a different place in the mix then pan it 180*, I find it completely entertaining. It actually takes a lot for me to listen to records like the new Behemoth. Same as Marduks, the involvement on the listeners end is very intence. I also feel if you don't listen that way you may as well play something else. I listen at high volumes and devote all my mental focus so I'm not able to do that all day long.


Obviously listening to a iPod is different and can be in the background. But ya, I only listen to Behemoths new one when I can devote complete focus to it. I'm testing a new Schiit Asgard so my time is spent listening to what I call my test CDs. This week there has been a lot of DSOTM played as well as IDM. Lol


Converge took me a long time to like and they are an intense listen too. I don't listen to them much anymore but at one time I really felt they were amazing. I have never been a super Hardcore fan except maybe Agnostic Front in the 80s. Went into Punk for awhile but never really got into it like some. The great part of metal is we get to experience so many genre influences which flow in and out of metal. Right now metal has industrial, punk, jazz, new wave, ska, rap and classical as well as electro, ambient and noise to mention just a few.
Edited by Redcarmoose - 6/26/14 at 11:14pm
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Yes, I will put a mid-year list together. But to be honest I'm going back the last three years and getting into stuff that didn't click at the time. The last three years have been almost a hyper metal experience for me as a listener. Like Opeths Damnation ( older than three years ) and have it just sounds fresh all over again is fun or an album like 2012s Les Voyages De L'Ame is something I hated in 2012 but like a lot now. Who knows why? Shoegaze caught up to me? I hope not.wink.gif
Edited by Redcarmoose - 6/26/14 at 11:48pm
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Man I am soo pissed the new Massacre album is a total trainwreck

i aint played it and may not now....cheers for the heads up

post #14978 of 25547
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Highlights of 2014, so far::

 

- Destiny Potato - Lun

- Wretched - Cannibal

- Atlas Moth - The Old Believer

- Indian - From All Purity

- Misery Index - The Killing Gods

- Lantlos - Melting Sun

- Pestifer - Reaching The Void

- Triptykon - Melana Chasmata

- Embryonic Devourment - Reptillian Agenda

- Animals as Leaders - The Joy Of Motion

- Soreption - Engineering the Void

- Mantar - Death By Burning

- Morbus Chron - Sweven

- Benighted - Carnivore Sublime

- Hail Spirit Noir - Oi Magoi

- Woods of Desolation -  As the Stars

- Cynic - Kindly Bent to Free Us

heard nothing except misery index-i think its solid

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Originally Posted by keepitsimple View Post

heard nothing except misery index-i think its solid
- Destiny Potato - Lun........Surprised to see you like this un.

I have heard ten albums off that list.rolleyes.gif
Edited by Redcarmoose - 6/27/14 at 2:18am
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- Destiny Potato - Lun........Surprised to see you like this un.

I have heard ten albums off that list.rolleyes.gif

Its so much fun and poppy with girly vocals. Whats not to like :)

post #14981 of 25547
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No I like the recording actually which fits the kind of listener I am. If they do a drum accent and put it in a different place in the mix then pan it 180*, I find it completely entertaining. It actually takes a lot for me to listen to records like the new Behemoth. Same as Marduks, the involvement on the listeners end is very intence. I also feel if you don't listen that way you may as well play something else. I listen at high volumes and devote all my mental focus so I'm not able to do that all day long.


Obviously listening to a iPod is different and can be in the background. But ya, I only listen to Behemoths new one when I can devote complete focus to it. I'm testing a new Schiit Asgard so my time is spent listening to what I call my test CDs. This week there has been a lot of DSOTM played as well as IDM. Lol


Converge took me a long time to like and they are an intense listen too. I don't listen to them much anymore but at one time I really felt they were amazing. I have never been a super Hardcore fan except maybe Agnostic Front in the 80s. Went into Punk for awhile but never really got into it like some. The great part of metal is we get to experience so many genre influences which flow in and out of metal. Right now metal has industrial, punk, jazz, new wave, ska, rap and classical as well as electro, ambient and noise to mention just a few.


Cool-Metal does sound best loud. W/ HP's I'm pretty careful not to blow out my hearing any worse than what's already done. I'm told my hearing isn't as good....as in "what?" "Why do you have the TV turned so loud!" I'm hopeful that's not really true!

 

I'll put Behemoth on my wish list. I'm an old English/liberal arts guy and words and lyrics mean something to me. I find w/ well thought out extreme metal (not the simplistic hail satan burn in hell variety), listening once through while reading the lyrics can be a key or hook for me, and then it all makes sense and the music often/not always but often compliments or accents the message-even if it's nasty....this is metal:biggrin:

 

Converge I find can be a tough beast. You talk about working to hear a recording right. I have to put in effort w/ Converge-maybe have the lyrics close by which are so good and personal....poetic almost---painful-but the metal sounds infused w/ hardcore is pretty great. Take away the vox, the guitar work is phenomenal. Maybe a little like the limited time I've spent w/ Grind. Different-but they both give me the same thing---fast and furious, innovative sounds w/ not foot off the gas. But kind of endurance test.

 

Last year's Pig Destroyer-wow! Like Taxi Cab Confessions on speed w/ a sledgehammer. I live near Baltimore where they're from and it's always fun when you know names of street names and such that are named in songs....Clutch also from the DC area.

 

I'd be curious your thoughts of the Asgard. Your gear looks to a little higher end typically.

 

The A-2 was my first amp until I just recently took a dive into tube/hybrid w/ a LD1+ w/ some Yugo and Russian tubes.


Edited by markm1 - 6/27/14 at 9:15am
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I'll put Behemoth on my wish list. I'm an old English/liberal arts guy and words and lyrics mean something to me. I find w/ well thought out extreme metal (not the simplistic hail satan burn in hell variety), listening once through while reading the lyrics can be a key or hook for me, and then it all makes sense and the music often/not always but often compliments or accents the message-even if it's nasty....this is metal:biggrin:

 

 

 

l like the lyrics also...but in fairness most of the time i can't understand them anyways ha ha and unless i'm really interested I often don't bother looking them up

 

the new Behemoth is definitely and defiantly evil but it is very much a personal journey type of satanic stuff, the power of one-self and all that rather than the old school shock value style.  It's inspired (from what i've read in interviews) from his journey through the cancer and all that, so you may find it interesting.  musically it's my favorite Behemoth, i've never been a huge fan but I do like the new one, the riffage is crushing no doubt.   If we're talking titans of Polish extreme metal, I still prefer the new Vader....I'm just drawn to Vader's style

 

Listening to the new Allageon now, so far impressed although it's in the background on speakers, gotta concentrate on work today :(

 

wrathzombie:  nice list!  i've heard most of them, the ones i haven't i'll be checking out for sure!  i agree with most of them as well :)  except for cynic and lantlos LOL didn't really like either of them, although the lantlos does have it's moments


Edited by ferday - 6/27/14 at 10:31am
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l like the lyrics also...but in fairness most of the time i can't understand them anyways ha ha and unless i'm really interested I often don't bother looking them up

 

 

That is true!  Unless the lyrics are really special or unique...for me.

 

Vadars on my list as well. I don't think I've ever actually heard them. Rhapsody's got the new one---streaming it now-good stuff.....giving me a meat and potatoes OSDM/thrash vibe. A little like Jungle Rot-Kill on Command-which has become a recent touchstone/reference DM sound I like. Simple and no B.S.


Edited by markm1 - 6/27/14 at 11:35am
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Cool-Metal does sound best loud. W/ HP's I'm pretty careful not to blow out my hearing any worse than what's already done. I'm told my hearing isn't as good....as in "what?" "Why do you have the TV turned so loud!" I'm hopeful that's not really true!

I'll put Behemoth on my wish list. I'm an old English/liberal arts guy and words and lyrics mean something to me. I find w/ well thought out extreme metal (not the simplistic hail satan burn in hell variety), listening once through while reading the lyrics can be a key or hook for me, and then it all makes sense and the music often/not always but often compliments or accents the message-even if it's nasty....this is metal:D

Converge I find can be a tough beast. You talk about working to hear a recording right. I have to put in effort w/ Converge-maybe have the lyrics close by which are so good and personal....poetic almost---painful-but the metal sounds infused w/ hardcore is pretty great. Take away the vox, the guitar work is phenomenal. Maybe a little like the limited time I've spent w/ Grind. Different-but they both give me the same thing---fast and furious, innovative sounds w/ not foot off the gas. But kind of endurance test.

Last year's Pig Destroyer-wow! Like Taxi Cab Confessions on speed w/ a sledgehammer. I live near Baltimore where they're from and it's always fun when you know names of street names and such that are named in songs....Clutch also from the DC area.

I'd be curious your thoughts of the Asgard. Your gear looks to a little higher end typically.

The A-2 was my first amp until I just recently took a dive into tube/hybrid w/ a LD1+ w/ some Yugo and Russian tubes.

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Originally Posted by ferday View Post

l like the lyrics also...but in fairness most of the time i can't understand them anyways ha ha and unless i'm really interested I often don't bother looking them up

the new Behemoth is definitely and defiantly evil but it is very much a personal journey type of satanic stuff, the power of one-self and all that rather than the old school shock value style.  It's inspired (from what i've read in interviews) from his journey through the cancer and all that, so you may find it interesting.  musically it's my favorite Behemoth, i've never been a huge fan but I do like the new one, the riffage is crushing no doubt.   If we're talking titans of Polish extreme metal, I still prefer the new Vader....I'm just drawn to Vader's style

Listening to the new Allageon now, so far impressed although it's in the background on speakers, gotta concentrate on work today frown.gif

wrathzombie:  nice list!  i've heard most of them, the ones i haven't i'll be checking out for sure!  i agree with most of them as well smily_headphones1.gif  except for cynic and lantlos LOL didn't really like either of them, although the lantlos does have it's moments
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Cool-Metal does sound best loud. W/ HP's I'm pretty careful not to blow out my hearing any worse than what's already done. I'm told my hearing isn't as good....as in "what?" "Why do you have the TV turned so loud!" I'm hopeful that's not really true!

I'll put Behemoth on my wish list. I'm an old English/liberal arts guy and words and lyrics mean something to me. I find w/ well thought out extreme metal (not the simplistic hail satan burn in hell variety), listening once through while reading the lyrics can be a key or hook for me, and then it all makes sense and the music often/not always but often compliments or accents the message-even if it's nasty....this is metal:D

Converge I find can be a tough beast. You talk about working to hear a recording right. I have to put in effort w/ Converge-maybe have the lyrics close by which are so good and personal....poetic almost---painful-but the metal sounds infused w/ hardcore is pretty great. Take away the vox, the guitar work is phenomenal. Maybe a little like the limited time I've spent w/ Grind. Different-but they both give me the same thing---fast and furious, innovative sounds w/ not foot off the gas. But kind of endurance test.

Last year's Pig Destroyer-wow! Like Taxi Cab Confessions on speed w/ a sledgehammer. I live near Baltimore where they're from and it's always fun when you know names of street names and such that are named in songs....Clutch also from the DC area.

I'd be curious your thoughts of the Asgard. Your gear looks to a little higher end typically.

The A-2 was my first amp until I just recently took a dive into tube/hybrid w/ a LD1+ w/ some Yugo and Russian tubes.

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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

That is true!  Unless the lyrics are really special or unique...for me.

Vadars on my list as well. I don't think I've ever actually heard them. Rhapsody's got the new one---streaming it now-good stuff.....giving me a meat and potatoes OSDM/thrash vibe. A little like Jungle Rot-Kill on Command-which has become a recent touchstone/reference DM sound I like. Simple and no B.S.






I like the Vader better than the new Behemoth too. It is just more accessible and easy to get into anytime. But I'm also a member here who has had a steady history of listening to Vader, about 14 or 15 years, so hearing a new Vader record is mentally easy.


Behemoth has always been this band that I listened to because everyone else liked them and I didn't want to miss out. Kill on Command was at the top or close to the top of my year end list when it came out. Just a great record and maybe a little better than their last. The sound they get
on the guitar is involving and warm. It has been said that Jungle Rot are the most underrated Death metal band in existence. It has always been that way. They keep it all very simple and groovy. Kill On Command is also very consistent from start to finish.

As far as Behemoths devotion to Satan goes, well...... I'm Hindu so I maybe look at it all a little different than some here? So there is many types of Satanism and some becomes very close to atheism. I respect all religion that someone has. As far as metal goes it is great for lyrics and mood. I also believe in a type of universal duality with bands like Behemoth having their complete spiritual place in the whole scheme of things. A universal balance if you will?

Friends could come over and say, wow your really into this dark stuff? Do you think it's healthy? I would tell them yes, it is ok with me. Would it make someone mentally more open to joining a neighborhood cult that sacrifices children? Maybe? Still even if it is all show and a trick for Behemoth it ends up being the same with them being sincere or not. They go over the same concepts if they are real or not.


The Asgard One is my first Schitt product. I just wanted to spend time with a good solid state headphone amp and find out what all the fuss is about with Schiit. It is a great value and an amp value that did not exist here Head-Fi five years ago. If I was putting a system together for the first time I would be more than happy with it. It does not do much wrong and does a ton of stuff right. Maybe a little boring and reserved at times but a perfect piece for the money. It seems to play a lot of genres well.
Edited by Redcarmoose - 6/27/14 at 1:00pm
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I like the Vader better than the new Behemoth too. It is just more accessible and easy to get into anytime. But I'm also a member here who has had a steady history of listening to Vader, about 14 or 15 years, so hearing a new Vader record is mentally easy.


Behemoth has always been this band that I listened to because everyone else liked them and I didn't want to miss out. Kill on Command was at the top or close to the top of my year end list when it came out. Just a great record and maybe a little better than their last. The sound they get
on the guitar is involving and warm. It has been said that Jungle Rot are the most underrated Death metal band in existence. It has always been that way. They keep it all very simple and groovy. Kill On Command is also very consistent from start to finish.

As far as Behemoths devotion to Satan goes, well...... I'm Hindu so I maybe look at it all a little different than some here? So there is many types of Satanism and some becomes very close to atheism. I respect all religion that someone has. As far as metal goes it is great for lyrics and mood. I also believe in a type of universal duality with bands like Behemoth having their complete spiritual place in the whole scheme of things. A universal balance if you will?

Friends could come over and say, wow your really into this dark stuff? Do you think it's healthy? I would tell them yes, it is ok with me. Would it make someone mentally more open to joining a neighborhood cult that sacrifices children? Maybe? Still even if it is all show and a trick for Behemoth it ends up being the same with them being sincere or not. They go over the same concepts if they are real or not.


The Asgard One is my first Schitt product. I just wanted to spend time with a good solid state headphone amp and find out what all the fuss is about with Schiit. It is a great value and an amp value that did not exist here Head-Fi five years ago. If I was putting a system together for the first time I would be more than happy with it. It does not do much wrong and does a ton of stuff right. Maybe a little boring and reserved at times but a perfect piece for the money. It seems to play a lot of genres well.


Thanks for that! The A-2 is darn versatile I will say that. It's been fine for my Grados and later if I add an ortho (I'm lusting after one of those LCD-2 Fazors) it would power that too. I think your comments are spot on. Some find it slightly bright. To my ears it's just a very clean, open, clear sound. My new tube hybrid adds a little smoothness but really not worlds apart from the A-2.

 

We've had these philosophical discussions on this thread before. I, also respect peoples religious views except when they try to mix it w/ politics and tell me who I can sleep with, how I should pray, etc. Personally, I turned my back on organized religion a long ass time ago. It's all mythology in my book. I do find "Satanism" a fascinating piece of subject matter much like I would a Stephen King or Ann rice novel-none of it too seriously. If anything I lean toward Buddhism....but obviously not too much :evil:

 

Namaste MFers

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