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post #13516 of 16810
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post
 


Cool... I've been investigating some fusion.

 

Kind of interesting listening to Miles Davis electric period. I recently bought In a Silent Way and Bitches Brew. Quite experimental.

 

I hear sounds that remind me of later period earth, psychedelic and even post rock. These two albums are credited to influence ambient music. That was the first time in jazz where music was tracked and then heavily edited which supposedly influended early Hip hop sampling.

 

 

i have a small jazz collection, mostly the "classics" and then some experimental stuff like Zorn.  i do like bitches brew a lot, and of course the classic coltrane, hancock, sun ra, etc

 

try as i might though i just can't really get into jazz anymore.   i really do like the jazz influences in metal, from full on jazz-metal like Candiria through to the weird time changes etc. of someone like DEP

post #13517 of 16810
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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose View Post

Jazz? Actually most Jazz is as boring as the snobbery that adores it. IMO.

This, coming from the guy stuck in pre-1995 metal based on the number of classic death era YouTube vids posted.

Not that its a bad thing mind you, just saying my good friend RCM! biggrin.gif

RCM, this recommendation is for you.

What say you?
post #13518 of 16810
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Originally Posted by ferday View Post
 

 

i have a small jazz collection, mostly the "classics" and then some experimental stuff like Zorn.  i do like bitches brew a lot, and of course the classic coltrane, hancock, sun ra, etc

 

try as i might though i just can't really get into jazz anymore.   i really do like the jazz influences in metal, from full on jazz-metal like Candiria through to the weird time changes etc. of someone like DEP


I go through stages definitely. Years ago I lived in LA and a friend I was staying with had tickets to the resident jazz orchestra at the Hollywood bowl. The Cayton Hammilton Jazz orchestra. Classic big band. This was the late 90's. Like a modern day version of Duke Ellington. Being a metal guy, I wasn't sure what to expect. I  thought they were great....swing. It was actually really enjoyable. Really skilled. In fact, I've seen John Clayton credited playing bass and arranging Diana Krall

 

He took me to two shows. The tickets were free, so WTF? I was staying with him...wanna go to the Hollywood Bowl. Uh, sure dude....

 

He turned me on to jazz. After that I bought some music, but eventually felt like jazz was something to be experienced live. And, in some ways I still feel that way.

 

I do feel now that I have invested in better audio-that jazz really needs a decent sound system for me to appreciate. Whereas the more-what? Visceral nature of rock and metal can more easily be enjoyed on some cheap schiit :cool:

 

That, and I feel like metal of all things has exposed me to these different sounds-ambient, experimental noise rock, even electronic music. And, I'm feeling that with some avant garde and progressive jazz.

 

Not trying to be a snob.....back to metal.


Edited by markm1 - 3/3/14 at 4:23pm
post #13519 of 16810

Has anyone tried this. Its weirdly nice..

 

 

post #13520 of 16810
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Originally Posted by wrathzombie View Post

Has anyone tried this. Its weirdly nice..






I always pick up Boris releases. This one was ok, I don't like the vocals much but the whole package is...nice, as you said.
post #13521 of 16810
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Originally Posted by wrathzombie View Post
 

Has anyone tried this. Its weirdly nice..

 

 

 

I'm a big fan. One of their less heavy albums, but a terrific collaboration. I like it at least as well as their work with Sun 0)) Cool psychedelic album.

post #13522 of 16810
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Originally Posted by Trogdor View Post

This, coming from the guy stuck in pre-1995 metal based on the number of classic death era YouTube vids posted.

What say you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obscura_%28band%29

 Only with Obscura it was original. I keep hearing Obscura.

 

Your right. My musical taste could be boring? I still have a deep hatred for Jazz, even though it inspired Black Sabbath to do what they did.:veryevil: 


Edited by Redcarmoose - 3/3/14 at 8:07pm
post #13523 of 16810
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post
 

I'm a big fan. One of their less heavy albums, but a terrific collaboration. I like it at least as well as their work with Sun 0)) Cool psychedelic album.

Last year's Präparat was pure awesomeness. I listened to it only once and it felt so perfect at the moment that I haven't dared to listen to it again. I should! You all should :D

post #13524 of 16810
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Originally Posted by Kirnupiima View Post

Last year's Präparat was pure awesomeness. I listened to it only once and it felt so perfect at the moment that I haven't dared to listen to it again. I should! You all should biggrin.gif

It's SO good. It's also impossible to find unless one is interested in big $ or less than respectable means of acquiring it

I won't say which way I went....but I'm glad I have the album either way..although in the end amplifier worship will likely remain my favourite Boris work
post #13525 of 16810
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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose View Post

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obscura_%28band%29
 Only with Obscura it was original. I keep hearing Obscura.

Your right. My musical taste could be boring? I still have a deep hatred for Jazz, even though it inspired Black Sabbath to do what they did.very_evil_smiley.gif  

Well yeah, its Obscura-ish. But I thought you would dig it.

I didn't say it was boring. But definitely consistent! wink.gif
post #13526 of 16810
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post


I do feel now that I have invested in better audio-that jazz really needs a decent sound system for me to appreciate. Whereas the more-what? Visceral nature of rock and metal can more easily be enjoyed on some cheap schiit cool.gif

That's the problem. We're used to crappy production as metal heads when in reality, we shouldn't be.
post #13527 of 16810
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Originally Posted by Trogdor View Post


That's the problem. We're used to crappy production as metal heads when in reality, we shouldn't be.

 

We are? I don't think we are. Unless you're chiefly into necro black metal.

post #13528 of 16810
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

 

We are?

We are.

post #13529 of 16810
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

We are.

 

I disagree, as I said. There are absolutely LOADS of metal albums with fantastic production, even going back into the early days. 

post #13530 of 16810

Yeah, I would consider most of my metal to have average production. I've heard plenty of good and bad. But I'm not going to pretend like pop is any better.

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