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post #12916 of 16592
I really love some basslines that do whatever they want. Death's Individual Thought Patterns, Beyond Creation, Obscura... super duper, my firends. That's not to say that bass that isn't well defined doesn't sound good, too. It can turn a heavy album into a CRUSHING album.

How about the bass on Ulcerate's Vermis? It sounds like a third (fourth, fifth, sixth?) distorted guitar, and just lends this nasty sound to the whole album. Awesome!
post #12917 of 16592
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Nice. I had not heard of them before.

As for bass in metal, I say to you sir, what would Metallica have been without Cliff Burton? Or Maiden without Steve Harris? Motörhead minus Lemmy? Rush without Geddy? i shudder to think. The bass is the least respected, least understood instrument in rock and metal.

And yes, I am a bassist.

 

You dudes read me all wrong. Ofcourse metal needs bass! It's just the ultra noodly, wankey, all-over-the-place bumblebee fretless bass that I don't understand. A bass player's playing needs to distinguish itself from a guitarist's, in my opinion. In the overly technical fretless bass wankeryworld, the bass player ends up playing as intricate as the guitarist, mostly in the higher regions of the fretboard. The whole sound lacks a proper, rumbling and solid bass foundation that way. Ofcourse I admire the musicianship, I just really miss a proper bass player in those technical noodlebass bands. 

 

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Originally Posted by campj View Post

How about the bass on Ulcerate's Vermis? It sounds like a third (fourth, fifth, sixth?) distorted guitar, and just lends this nasty sound to the whole album. Awesome!
 
 
This is an excellent example of technical bass guitar done right. I have been creaming over Ulcerate since before the dinosaurs and they have one of the best implementations of bass wizardry around. 

Edited by Negakinu - 1/9/14 at 6:23am
post #12918 of 16592
I'd never thought of bass apreggios 'til I came upon Beyond Creation. I think both Obscura and Beyond Creation have a more technical sound than most tech-death bands because of the bass players (sci-fi themed progressive technical death metal fretless bass guitar apreggio wankery, say it three times fast). I dig it. But for those times I don't want to listen to hyper-complex music, I have many other albums to choose from. smily_headphones1.gif
post #12919 of 16592
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another px 100 fan  :beerchug:

I have been using HD 25 for almost 1 + years now. But decided to give PX 100 II a shot and its a very good option. 

 

:beerchug:

post #12920 of 16592
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Originally Posted by Negakinu View Post
 

 

You dudes read me all wrong. Ofcourse metal needs bass! It's just the ultra noodly, wankey, all-over-the-place bumblebee fretless bass that I don't understand. A bass player's playing needs to distinguish itself from a guitarist's, in my opinion. In the overly technical fretless bass wankeryworld, the bass player ends up playing as intricate as the guitarist, mostly in the higher regions of the fretboard. The whole sound lacks a proper, rumbling and solid bass foundation that way. Ofcourse I admire the musicianship, I just really miss a proper bass player in those technical noodlebass bands.

 

 

You're absolutely right on this (ie. And Justice for All). And I also agree that a good rhythm section (guitar, bass, and drums) can make a decent album phenomenal. I listen to noodle-bands very rarely, and usually only once or twice through mainly because I appreciate their talent, but definitely think most come up short in the musicality dept. Same could be said for most BM bands. You can't just burn crosses and wear corpse paint while you howl (99.9% of all BM these days)...the idea is great, but it still needs to be musical to be enjoyable. It's why I can't get into bands like Dillinger and Anaal Nathrakh. I appreciate what they are doing, but I just can't listen to it for more than a few minutes.

post #12921 of 16592

To change the subject a bit on End of Year Lists and such, what were the albums you discovered this year that are "classics". I'm talking 10+ year old albums from bands that are famous but you had never taken the time to listen to (or missed)?

 

Mine:

 

1) Bathory - Hammerheart

2) Hecate Enthroned - Upon Promethean Shores

3) Black Sabbath - Mob Rules/Heaven and Hell - DIO RULES!

4) Morbid Angel - Gateways to Annihilation

5) Celtic Frost - Parched with thirst am I and dying

6) Coroner - Punishment

post #12922 of 16592
Gorguts - The Erosion of Sanity
Last four Death albums
Entire Meshuggah catalogue

Why I ever slept on Meshuggah and Death is beyond me. They are two of my favorite bands now.
post #12923 of 16592

The new Gorguts is damned good! Colored Sands...

post #12924 of 16592

I'd like to hear a bass guitar plugged into a Boss HM-2 pre and then into a SUNN amp

post #12925 of 16592

I've similarly missed on a few big names in the past like Thin Lizzy (everything but "The Boys are Back in Town" and "Jailbreak" is pretty good stuff) and Rainbow. Big names I know, but I just heard whatever on the radio and dismissed them. Never really got into Death or Carcass, but certainly appreciate their place in the pantheon. I think it was the vocalist on both accounts. And Meshuggah doesn't do it for me either. Tried a few times to get into them with no luck.

post #12926 of 16592
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I'd like to hear a bass guitar plugged into a Boss HM-2 pre and then into a SUNN amp

 

Have you heard Beehoover? Probably as close as you can get (although I don't know what setup the guy uses).

post #12927 of 16592
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Have you heard Beehoover? Probably as close as you can get (although I don't know what setup the guy uses).

 

"Last.fm results = stoner doom"

 

mmmmmmmmmm

post #12928 of 16592
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"Last.fm results = stoner doom"

mmmmmmmmmm

Not sure if I agree with that tag or not. They are quite a different sound than anybody I've ever heard before. Think Clutch with just a bass and a drummer. old school Clutch. Stoner-doom makes me think of Sleep orElectric Wizard.
Edited by Navybsn - 1/9/14 at 5:48pm
post #12929 of 16592
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Originally Posted by Navybsn View Post
 

To change the subject a bit on End of Year Lists and such, what were the albums you discovered this year that are "classics". I'm talking 10+ year old albums from bands that are famous but you had never taken the time to listen to (or missed)?

 

Mine:

 

1) Bathory - Hammerheart

2) Hecate Enthroned - Upon Promethean Shores

3) Black Sabbath - Mob Rules/Heaven and Hell - DIO RULES!

4) Morbid Angel - Gateways to Annihilation

5) Celtic Frost - Parched with thirst am I and dying

6) Coroner - Punishment

 

Shining - IV - The Eerie Cold
Bloodbath - Nightmares Made Flesh
Persefone - Core (Not quite 10 years)

post #12930 of 16592
A tasty BM treat I discovered tonite. One man band.



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