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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose View Post
 

Ya, I think they really come from two distinctly different directions. Nile always just being an Egypt sytle death-metal band with big cinematic presence. Where Behemoth was an intense polish BM band that turned Death/Black. So they have always had a different underlying base.

 

Nile being multi-instrumental right out of the gate as I remember, where Behemoth was simple BM then adding more creative instrumentation as they progressed on.

 

If you could even say this? I look at Nile as guitar-centric and Behemoth as drum-centric. IMO, Behemoths drums are front and center with the vocals. Also Behemoths drums may be a little better in the end. Maybe?

 

I hate to say this but Nile may be a one trick pony where Behemoth is more complex. Behemoth will grow and expand maybe into another sound where Nile may just fall back? This is a lot to say, but still, I kind of see it now?

 

 

  VS

 

All this and Behemoth has had recording difficulties, health difficulties and has not put out an album since 2009, where Nile's was out just last year!


I think that's a great evaluation. And, I enjoy Nile as well in small doses-they just aren't quite as satisfying to me. I'd love to see another great Behemoth album come out.

post #12647 of 25886
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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose View Post
 

Ya, I think they really come from two distinctly different directions. Nile always just being an Egypt sytle death-metal band with big cinematic presence. Where Behemoth was an intense polish BM band that turned Death/Black. So they have always had a different underlying base.

 

Nile being multi-instrumental right out of the gate as I remember, where Behemoth was simple BM then adding more creative instrumentation as they progressed on.

 

If you could even say this? I look at Nile as guitar-centric and Behemoth as drum-centric. IMO, Behemoths drums are front and center with the vocals. Also Behemoths drums may be a little better in the end. Maybe?

 

I hate to say this but Nile may be a one trick pony where Behemoth is more complex. Behemoth will grow and expand maybe into another sound where Nile may just fall back? This is a lot to say, but still, I kind of see it now?

 

 

  VS

 

All this and Behemoth has had recording difficulties, health difficulties and has not put out an album since 2009, where Nile's was out just last year!

 

 

Seriously though?

 

Who looks more professional?

 

OR

 

 

I know......not fair, but still?

I know its a bit cheesy but I think behemoth looks badass. 

 

I'm liking this bands style of Black Metal. 

post #12648 of 25886

 

There's a kind of barbaric tribal quality to Behemoth-not unlike HOF Surrounded By Thieves from a completely different genre.

post #12649 of 25886
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Originally Posted by Danieru View Post
 

 

I'm liking this bands style of Black Metal. 

Basically old Marduk ♥
I hope the cameraman is okay...looks like he had a seizure while filming this song :P


To me, Nile is more dark and evil. Mostly because of the whole atmosphere and subject of the songs.
All this Christian demon/satan/bible stuff that Behemoth is celebrating is getting a bit old IMO.

post #12650 of 25886
Yay, Carcass!



The solo and the riff right after the solo are just bombastic. I listened to the first three albums for a long time before getting Heartwork back in the day, and believe it or not, Heartwork was a bit of a letdown to me. It just doesn't have the same intensity as the older albums despite the great musicianship. I haven't heard Sugical Steel yet, but based on all the hype I guess it's worth getting?

Scratch that, listening to Surgical Steel now... yes, this is DEFINITELY worth getting. It's like Heartwork with the intensity of Necroticism! I see why it topped some year end lists.. nostalgia aside, this is great death metal.
Edited by campj - 12/24/13 at 9:53am
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Originally Posted by wrathzombie View Post
 

My favorites this year:

 

Exivious - Liminal

 

Plini - Everything this year

 

Palms - Palms

 

 

Katatonia - Dethroned and Uncrowned

 

 

Wormed - Exodormous

 

 

Black Crown Initiate - Song of the crippled Bull

 

 

Haken - The mountain

 

 

Gris - A lame Enflammee, lame Constellee

 

 

Gorguts - Coloured Sands

 

 

Deafheaven - Sunbather

 

 

The black dahlia murder - Sunbather

 

 

Immolation - Kingdom of conspiracy

 

 

Altar of Plagues - Teethed glory and Injury

 

 

In Vain - Aenigma

 

The fall of every season - Amends

 

 

Suffocation - Pinnacle of bedlam

 

Exhumation - Necrocracy

 

Katalepsy - Autopsychosis

 

 

Scale the summit - The Migration

 

Woe - Withdrawl

 

Defeated Sanity - Passages into deformity

 

 

October falls - Plague of a coming age

 

 

Mouth of the architect - Dawning

 

 

Steven Wilson - The Raven that refused to sing

 

 

 

 

Forgot the honorable mentions:

 

Kauan - Pirut

Cult Of Luna - Vertical

Voids of Sleep - Tales Between reality and Madness

Six Feet Under - Unborn

The Ocean - Pelagial

Locrian - Return to Annhilation

Amon Amarth - Deceiver of gods

Black Sabbath - 13

Jesu - Everyday I come closer to the light from which I came

Ulcerate - Vermis

Sleepers Awake - Transcesion


Edited by wrathzombie - 12/24/13 at 9:28am
post #12653 of 25886
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Originally Posted by wrathzombie View Post

Forgot the honorable mentions:



 



Kauan - Pirut



Cult Of Luna - Vertical



Voids of Sleep - Tales Between reality and Madness



Six Feet Under - Unborn



The Ocean - Pelagial



Locrian - Return to Annhilation



Amon Amarth - Deceiver of gods



Black Sabbath - 13



Jesu - Everyday I come closer to the light from which I came



Ulcerate - Vermis



Sleepers Awake - Transcesion



Third time I've seen the "Kauan - Pirut" record. Must listen.

I must be the only person the planet that still hasnot gotten into Ulcerate. On paper, I should LOVE, LOVE this band....
post #12654 of 25886
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Originally Posted by Trogdor View Post

Third time I've seen the "Kauan - Pirut" record. Must listen.

I must be the only person the planet that still hasnot gotten into Ulcerate. On paper, I should LOVE, LOVE this band....

I got the big Pirut set from Blood. Definitely a good one.

Also, I love Ulcerate. They ride that line of Tech without being too monotonas (ie. most other Tech Death bands) and I love it. Vermis was a great record. Probably in my top 10.
post #12655 of 25886

Question for all!

 

What is the album you wish MOST would be re-issued with a competent, more dynamic master? 

 

My answer is Celtic Frosts Monotheist. I absolutely adore this album but it is beyond bricked, you can tell even before you look at the numbers. And today I checked...... shield your eyes

 

foobar2000 1.3 beta 6 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2013-12-24 16:54:28

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Analyzed: Celtic Frost / Monotheist
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DR         Peak         RMS     Duration Track
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR4       -0.20 dB    -4.69 dB      5:02 01-Progeny
DR4       -0.20 dB    -4.79 dB      3:55 02-Ground
DR4       -0.20 dB    -6.37 dB      5:39 03-A Dying God Coming into Human Flesh
DR5       -0.70 dB    -7.63 dB      4:24 04-Drown in Ashes
DR4       -0.20 dB    -5.30 dB      6:41 05-Os Abysmi vel Daath
DR4       -0.70 dB    -5.93 dB      7:05 06-Obscured
DR4       -0.22 dB    -4.82 dB      4:38 07-Domain of Decay
DR4       -0.24 dB    -4.82 dB      7:33 08-Ain Elohim
DR4       -0.22 dB    -6.20 dB      4:28 09-Triptych: Totengott
DR4       -0.20 dB    -5.40 dB     14:25 10-Triptych: Synagoga Satanae
DR9       -0.66 dB   -12.86 dB      4:33 11-Triptych: Winter (Requiem, Chapter Three: Finale)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of tracks:  11
Official DR value: DR4

Samplerate:        44100 Hz
Channels:          2
Bits per sample:   16
Bitrate:           996 kbps
Codec:             FLAC
================================================================================

post #12656 of 25886
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Originally Posted by Trogdor View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by wrathzombie View Post

Forgot the honorable mentions:



 



Kauan - Pirut



Cult Of Luna - Vertical



Voids of Sleep - Tales Between reality and Madness



Six Feet Under - Unborn



The Ocean - Pelagial



Locrian - Return to Annhilation



Amon Amarth - Deceiver of gods



Black Sabbath - 13



Jesu - Everyday I come closer to the light from which I came



Ulcerate - Vermis



Sleepers Awake - Transcesion



Third time I've seen the "Kauan - Pirut" record. Must listen.

I must be the only person the planet that still hasnot gotten into Ulcerate. On paper, I should LOVE, LOVE this band....

Hehehe.. I dont get most of all the old school black metal. Honestly, unless its has some mix of post, atmosphere, prog i cant stand it.. But for some reason i am able to get into some usbm and maybe my time for black will come.

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post #12657 of 25886
post #12658 of 25886
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Originally Posted by BLACKENEDPLAGUE View Post
 

Question for all!

 

What is the album you wish MOST would be re-issued with a competent, more dynamic master? 

 

My answer is Celtic Frosts Monotheist. I absolutely adore this album but it is beyond bricked, you can tell even before you look at the numbers. And today I checked...... shield your eyes

 

foobar2000 1.3 beta 6 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2013-12-24 16:54:28

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Analyzed: Celtic Frost / Monotheist
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DR         Peak         RMS     Duration Track
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR4       -0.20 dB    -4.69 dB      5:02 01-Progeny
DR4       -0.20 dB    -4.79 dB      3:55 02-Ground
DR4       -0.20 dB    -6.37 dB      5:39 03-A Dying God Coming into Human Flesh
DR5       -0.70 dB    -7.63 dB      4:24 04-Drown in Ashes
DR4       -0.20 dB    -5.30 dB      6:41 05-Os Abysmi vel Daath
DR4       -0.70 dB    -5.93 dB      7:05 06-Obscured
DR4       -0.22 dB    -4.82 dB      4:38 07-Domain of Decay
DR4       -0.24 dB    -4.82 dB      7:33 08-Ain Elohim
DR4       -0.22 dB    -6.20 dB      4:28 09-Triptych: Totengott
DR4       -0.20 dB    -5.40 dB     14:25 10-Triptych: Synagoga Satanae
DR9       -0.66 dB   -12.86 dB      4:33 11-Triptych: Winter (Requiem, Chapter Three: Finale)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of tracks:  11
Official DR value: DR4

Samplerate:        44100 Hz
Channels:          2
Bits per sample:   16
Bitrate:           996 kbps
Codec:             FLAC
================================================================================


Right now I couldnt see myself picking anything but Labyrinth by Fleshgod Apocalypse, its easily my favorite cd of theirs, and it should sound epic as ****, but alas it does not cause its brickwalled to hell and back

post #12659 of 25886
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

Basically old Marduk ♥
I hope the cameraman is okay...looks like he had a seizure while filming this song :P


To me, Nile is more dark and evil. Mostly because of the whole atmosphere and subject of the songs.
All this Christian demon/satan/bible stuff that Behemoth is celebrating is getting a bit old IMO.

Well I like both Nile and behemoth, but I haven't listened to neither in a while now. Plus their music style is just way too different. Nile is more technical. Hence technical death metal, but behemoth has more black metal influence, and that is why the its with the whole evil/Satan thing. But it's not all they sing about. They sing about philosophy and also middle eastern mythology too. 

 

I'll probably gonna catch some flak for this, but, oh well... 

 


Edited by Danieru - 12/24/13 at 10:39pm
post #12660 of 25886
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKENEDPLAGUE View Post
 

Question for all!

 

What is the album you wish MOST would be re-issued with a competent, more dynamic master? 

 

My answer is Celtic Frosts Monotheist. I absolutely adore this album but it is beyond bricked, you can tell even before you look at the numbers. And today I checked...... shield your eyes

 

foobar2000 1.3 beta 6 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2013-12-24 16:54:28

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Analyzed: Celtic Frost / Monotheist
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DR         Peak         RMS     Duration Track
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR4       -0.20 dB    -4.69 dB      5:02 01-Progeny
DR4       -0.20 dB    -4.79 dB      3:55 02-Ground
DR4       -0.20 dB    -6.37 dB      5:39 03-A Dying God Coming into Human Flesh
DR5       -0.70 dB    -7.63 dB      4:24 04-Drown in Ashes
DR4       -0.20 dB    -5.30 dB      6:41 05-Os Abysmi vel Daath
DR4       -0.70 dB    -5.93 dB      7:05 06-Obscured
DR4       -0.22 dB    -4.82 dB      4:38 07-Domain of Decay
DR4       -0.24 dB    -4.82 dB      7:33 08-Ain Elohim
DR4       -0.22 dB    -6.20 dB      4:28 09-Triptych: Totengott
DR4       -0.20 dB    -5.40 dB     14:25 10-Triptych: Synagoga Satanae
DR9       -0.66 dB   -12.86 dB      4:33 11-Triptych: Winter (Requiem, Chapter Three: Finale)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of tracks:  11
Official DR value: DR4

Samplerate:        44100 Hz
Channels:          2
Bits per sample:   16
Bitrate:           996 kbps
Codec:             FLAC
================================================================================

I'm probably gonna sound really stupid, but what is DR, Peak, and RMS? 

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