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Yeah, lots of people dig it... I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't actually! haha When it comes to USBM, I actually prefer Cobalt and similar acts. They have enough experimentation for it to be considered different from traditional black metal, but it's still dark, ferocious, and gritty. The latest AoP would fall into that category too, I think.

Good point on everything coming together. Sunbather is obviously a piece of art and worthy of the recognition it's getting... we'll see if Deafheaven ever tops it.
Edited by campj - 12/17/13 at 9:51am
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Yeah, lots of people dig it... I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't actually! haha When it comes to USBM, I actually prefer Cobalt and similar acts. They have enough experimentation for it to be considered different from traditional black metal, but it's still dark, ferocious, and gritty. The latest AoP would fall into that category too, I think.

Good point on everything coming together. Sunbather is obviously a piece of art and worthy of the recognition it's getting... we'll see if Deafheaven ever tops it.

I picked up Gin a couple of years ago-really like that album-but, yeah totally different animal.

 

Listening to the first track again, I'm reminded how much post metal in their sound. I really liked Isis. Kind of reminds me of their later  albums alternating "pretty sounds" and heaviness. But, after Oceanic, they really weren't that heavy. Like if you took Russian Circles and added a BM vocalist. Alcest has the same qualities on paper-but really sound nothing like Deafheaven....funny how that works.

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I just forwarded this to guys at work who call me 'Machinehead', 'Moshpit' and 'Omnipresent(reference to Beyond Creation song). They prefer Bollywood music though.

 

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Yeah, lots of people dig it... I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't actually! haha When it comes to USBM, I actually prefer Cobalt and similar acts. They have enough experimentation for it to be considered different from traditional black metal, but it's still dark, ferocious, and gritty. The latest AoP would fall into that category too, I think.

Good point on everything coming together. Sunbather is obviously a piece of art and worthy of the recognition it's getting... we'll see if Deafheaven ever tops it.


I didn't even know Cobalt was US. Cool. Eater of Birds is one of my favorite albums to date.

 

Comparing it to Deafheaven is apples and oranges, though. Cobalt and AoP seem to lack that minimalistic atmospheric sound.

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When this album came out I was worried that it would sound thin. To my surprise it sounded perfect. This is the beginning(the band says) of the Darkthrone freestyle sound we still have today. The drums on this album inspired by Girlschool.

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The album features the first of many covers performed by Megadeth: a speed metal version of Nancy Sinatra's classic "These Boots Are Made for Walkin'", with lyrics altered by Mustaine.[8] The song sparked controversy in later years when the song's original author, Lee Hazlewood, deemed Mustaine's changes to be "vile and offensive" and demanded that the song be removed from the album. Under threat of legal action, the song was removed from all pressings released after 1995.[9]In 2002, however, the album was re-released with an edited version of the song, with the altered lyrics bleeped.[8] In the 2002 reissue liner notes, Mustaine is strongly critical of Hazlewood, and notes that Hazlewood received royalties for almost ten years before objecting to the altered version.[8]

 

Looks like you have the 2002 copy.

 

I am glad I held onto the original CDs of Megadeths work. Dave redid them a couple years ago and changed lyrics as well as other stuff from the original.


Thanks brother!

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On the whole Sunbather topic, I guess I do not understand it. It has some very technical elements to it, but it feels like its trying too hard to be artistic or something. Just not my musical taste.

 

I just found out about Nekrogoblikon the other, and am really enjoying their music. I absolutely love this music video for some reason.

 

They are supposed to be reprinting their first two albums soon. It is probably when I will pick all their cds up. I can not decide about the EP though, the few songs I have heard have too much clean singing. 

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ahahhaha 3;30 wtf is that!? 

Lol, Goblins have some serious dance skillz. I love how he slams down shots right before that part though it cracks me up every time.

 

The only problem I have with that part is that outside of the music video the whole techno part is really random when just listening to the song.


Edited by gamefreak054 - 12/17/13 at 11:24pm
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I need to listen to it some more. Actually, it is one of my favorites this year. But, I've put it aside over the past couple of months.

 

My take:I used to work in theater.  It's a funny thing, when the right combination of collaborative elements jell. A good script, the right casting, direction, set and light design. It's magical when everything comes together. You can't predict it. If there was a secret code, then every show would be great. But sometimes the right synergy-combination of elements just happens.

 

 

 

i love Sunbather for what it is...which to me is godspeed! with vocals

 

in my occasionally humble opinion, all of the USBM bands are playing catch-up with Ash Borer who have fast become one of my favorite bands ever.  it's too bad bloodlands was so "short".  i like your analogy though markm1, initially i was somewhat repulsed by deafhaven but after a few listens they really do have a good combination of elements and now i can appreciate it for what it is rather than what i "wanted" it to be

 

and that article was fun, apparently i'm superhuman cause nothing is better sleep music than the current crop of atmospheric USBM LOL.  but...extreme metal fans, i think, are chosen rather than the other way around, convincing laymen is not only futile but pointless.  metallica bred me, slayer chose me, pantera raised me and the rest is history

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I just found out about Nekrogoblikon the other, and am really enjoying their music. I absolutely love this music video for some reason.

For some reason? Could it be that that was true greatness? Yes I think so.

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i love Sunbather for what it is...which to me is godspeed! with vocals

 

in my occasionally humble opinion, all of the USBM bands are playing catch-up with Ash Borer who have fast become one of my favorite bands ever.  it's too bad bloodlands was so "short".  i like your analogy though markm1, initially i was somewhat repulsed by deafhaven but after a few listens they really do have a good combination of elements and now i can appreciate it for what it is rather than what i "wanted" it to be

 

and that article was fun, apparently i'm superhuman cause nothing is better sleep music than the current crop of atmospheric USBM LOL.  but...extreme metal fans, i think, are chosen rather than the other way around, convincing laymen is not only futile but pointless.  metallica bred me, slayer chose me, pantera raised me and the rest is history

That's actually better-post rock drone with some metal cross over.

 

That was a good article. One thing to say about some BM vocals, is that the harsh vocals can actually add to the melody or enhance the melody with higher pitched vocalizations in places. But, you're right-convincing the unitiated is a zero sum game for the most part.

 

I teach kayaking a little on the side for fun. It's kind of like the first time people see a rapid and they become consumed by fear. Even if you tell them, "look, this is a really safe rapid, just follow me, there are not major hazards, if you flip and can't roll and end up out of your boat, just swim to the shore, and I'll be right there....really, it's going to be fun". All they can think is-I'm going to die today! In the end, like extreme metal, or teaching or whatever, all  you can do is expose people and if it sticks it may change their life, but most people just can't see that.


Edited by markm1 - 12/18/13 at 6:20am
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yeh ive never seen anything like that b4 allthough i can relate slightly to the guy apart from being green of course

Well it's not easy...
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