Originally Posted by markm1
I always have to get on here and defend Metallica even though I haven't really liked anything since And Justice For All.
It's important to respect them historically in terms of their place in Metal history. As one of the older posters on these pages, I think it's partly generational. I don't mean to come off like your Dad or Uncle, but TBH, If you weren't alive and old enough to purchase records in the 80's then it's hard to understand. I'm of the age that was equally influenced by classic rock, alternative rock, punk and hard rock and HM.
I'm the same way about music that came before me was influential when I was a young kid or before I was born. If you want to be real, you need to do some research. Rock and metal have been around for a while now.
Case in point-Bob Dylan. My parents generation were out of their minds crazy about Dylan. I liked him well enough, but didn't get it.
Recently, I've developed an interest in folk...partially inspired from bands like Agalloch. Along the way I've learned that before the 1960's, folk artists mostly recorded old music handed down generation to generation. "old timey" Appalachian music, protest songs....
Dylan was one of the first people in the 60's to write most of his own songs in the folk format. He changed music history forever. In a couple of albums, he pretty much single handedly originated the "singer songwriter" genre that I took for granted for always existing. Then, he went electric and arguably originated the genre of folk rock. I did not know that. A kid now that saw Dylan today would probably say, who's that crazy old dude. Of course, you could say the same thing about Ozzy.
Jump ahead 20 years, most of what passed for popular metal was Zeppelin (The Beatles of heavy Metal IMO), Black Sabbath (The rolling Stones), NWOBHM and hair metal (I.e., Motley Crue). It was really lame. Punk get heavier and metal and punk fused...that development is critical to understand the changes in metal in the 90's and extreme metal.
Metallica may not have been the first to combine punk/hardcore stylings and traditional metal-Motorhead probably was-but they certainly opened the doorways to the public. They were the most important metal band in the 80's in the U.S. IMO-maybe not the underground-but for all the kids out there that weren't that plugged in and just wanted to bang their heads to something that sounded fresh and authentic.
And yeah, they not that great now. But, The Rolling Stones haven't been great since the late 70's.