So go right ahead with Mortem, its no big deal.
Other bands like Peste Noire and Fanisk, that's a different story.
Can you fill in the clueless...me
He's the dude from Nachtmystium right? What's the charge....curious.
He's been stealing from fans and friends for years. Promising things from test pressings to stuff as simple as tshirts. Thousands of dollars worth of scams. They're quite documented on various forums.
And yes, it's the dude from Nachtmystium.
I guess it's just how far you want to take the hatred. If you can hate on a religion then why is it such a big step to hate on a race? I don't do either, I'm just saying - hate is hate. I think there comes a point when any type of hatred is intolerable because it all stems from ignorance.
I'm with keepitsimple, for me it's about the music. I don't think it's good to harbor extreme hatred, but I also don't think listening to music that does makes you any worse of a person. I don't agree with half the lyrics I listen to. When you start thinking it's OK to hate some things but not others... well somehow that seems worse.
peste noire? they actually have a somewhat unique take on nationalism, IMO....slightly less narrow minded (as i understand it from interviews etc.). i don't know fanisk at all
I guess what I was trying to express was the difference between large organizations/corporations/entities/social structures vs. individuals.
So some abstract notion about Satanism doesn't bother me-I don't self identify with any religion and frankly if you're touchy about anti Christian sentiment....then you probably don't want to listen to Black Metal!
Or feelings of misanthropy-or even fantasies of annihilating the human race-just feel like a fantasy. But when you focus your anger at a group-the anti Semitism of some strains of European nationalism would be the obvious one to me...but it could be any immigrant group that cause conflict in Europe or immigrant groups in the U.S. ...or good old fashion American racism.....then it just feels different to me.
So, go ahead....rage against the machine....but if you start talking about go back to Africa or we don't like people that speak Spanish, or the holocaust never happened etc.then I'm not going to listen to your music.
I like what Recarmoose about brotherhood and being in something together. Makes me think of a lyric from one of my favorite albums last year-Kreator-Phantom Antichrist. So there are photos of horns and goats. There's songs like United in Hate, Death to the World and Civilization Collapse....but they don't seem to target any group. On one song, From Flood Into Fire, the chorus says: Let us be part of the cure, not part of the plague. We'll only be remembered for what we Create.
So amid the anti Christian iconography and nihilism there's a sense of some kind of obligation to make things better on this planet which in the end I believe is kind of the point of being alive.
Just my rambling thoughts.
Yet the entire idea behind that improvement is purging the human race from the planet. Some paradox. :P
Agreed-but at least their not writing about exterminating immigrants or such white supremacist non sense. Purge the human race except for everyone united with metal.
That sounds like Manowar.
I have just been informed by Harri Pikka in email, that Total Devastation - Satama album is available for download on Bandcamp finally. After more than a year. I don't know if anyone is still interested