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post #11611 of 17006
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Originally Posted by Origin89 View Post
 

 

 
I don't think Neige is worried about getting people into Metal. I know I'm not. I just wouldn't like to see him become another one of the hundreds of shoegaze bands out their. 
 
Autre Temps is beautiful, for sure. But there really isn't anything Metal about that song.

 

I doubt that he is, but it's a plus. I like having music that I can share with others. I can't really comment on shoegaze since I basically know nothing about it. Are the "black metal" style atmospheric guitars normal for the genre? Because I don't know how you could say that Autre Temps doesn't kick into metal mode around 2:20.

post #11612 of 17006
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Originally Posted by macrocheesium View Post
 

 

I doubt that he is, but it's a plus. I like having music that I can share with others. I can't really comment on shoegaze since I basically know nothing about it. Are the "black metal" style atmospheric guitars normal for the genre? Because I don't know how you could say that Autre Temps doesn't kick into metal mode around 2:20.

 

 
Yea, I really enjoy sharing music with people who already have an appreciation and understanding for it. But I won't go out of my way recruiting people like it's some sort of club. 
 
Alcest is like Shoegaze Black Metal. I just wouldn't want him to start taking more and more of the Black Metal influence out of it and heading into pure Shoegaze. Straight-up Shoegaze is awesome, but that's being done very well by many other bands already... It seems like he's heading that way by taking out the screams and saying that this isn't a Metal project. I don't know... To be honest, it's really nice stuff regardless. 
post #11613 of 17006
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Originally Posted by Origin89 View Post
 

 

Alcest is like Shoegaze Black Metal. I just wouldn't want him to start taking more and more of the Black Metal influence out of it and heading into pure Shoegaze. Straight-up Shoegaze is awesome, but that's being done very well by many other bands already... It seems like he's heading that way by taking out the screams and saying that this isn't a Metal project. I don't know... To be honest, it's really nice stuff regardless. 

 

I don't think he will, just looking at all of his projects. This guy is all about metal. It seems strange that there were screams on Les Voyages at all, though. I read an interview where he was saying how it was a happy album and he couldn't understand why everyone seemed to think it was supposed to be depressing. I don't speak a word of French, so I was also under the impression that it was melancholy. In that sense I don't think he accomplished his goal.

post #11614 of 17006
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Originally Posted by macrocheesium View Post
 

 

I don't think he will, just looking at all of his projects. This guy is all about metal. It seems strange that there were screams on Les Voyages at all, though. I read an interview where he was saying how it was a happy album and he couldn't understand why everyone seemed to think it was supposed to be depressing. I don't speak a word of French, so I was also under the impression that it was melancholy. In that sense I don't think he accomplished his goal.

 

Maybe so. Everyone has their idea of happiness. I definitely find joy in most of Alcest's stuff, but there is a sense of longing for the home beyond, so I see melancholy as well. 


Edited by Origin89 - 9/20/13 at 8:46pm
post #11615 of 17006

Although Les Voyages de l'Âme is my favourite Alcest album, I really wouldn't mind them making another Souvenirs D'un Autre Monde.
No screams at all and still really really awesome.

post #11616 of 17006
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Originally Posted by SoupRKnowva View Post

I would say the best death metal/melodic death metal record of the year so far would be Deciever of the Gods...still surprises me how good that cd is


Dude, c'mon, Carcass' Surgical Steel? Seriously, if you have not heard this record, please do so AND YES it's MDM. This record is AMAZING.

.Also don't forget about Omnium Gatherum's latest which was EXCELLENT too.

Homework: Listen...


Edited by Trogdor - 9/21/13 at 4:34am
post #11617 of 17006
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post

Although Les Voyages de l'Âme is my favourite Alcest album, I really wouldn't mind them making another Souvenirs D'un Autre Monde.

No screams at all and still really really awesome.

You know even though I agree with most of you regarding Alcest, I do think he peaked with Écailles de Lune. To me, that is his magnum opus. I really want him to go back to that but incorporate some of the "happy" elements of later albums. I thought Les Voyages was too "happy" but still beautiful.

post #11618 of 17006
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Originally Posted by BLACKENEDPLAGUE View Post

The point was that the album is surprisingly dynamic

I got to listen to it but those numbers look promising. Certainly above average.
post #11619 of 17006
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Originally Posted by Origin89 View Post
 

 

 
I don't think Neige is worried about getting people into Metal. I know I'm not. I just wouldn't like to see him become another one of the hundreds of shoegaze bands out their.
 
Autre Temps is beautiful, for sure. But there really isn't anything Metal about that song.

 

Yeah, so then the question given the Alcest sound-is does it need to be metal? Can it function as something else? And, what is that thing it becomes without metal? Hopefylly not Yanni:wink_face:

 

 I think I know what shoegaze sounds like through metal. But I'm sure I haven't heard a true shoegaze album. Of course their are any number of bands who have dropped metal from their sound. I picked up Ulver's Blood Inside a few years ago-I should actually listen to it again.

 

I got on a major Isis kick around the time that Panopticon came out and basically decided they were the best thing since sliced bread. Remember the Red Sparrowes? They were billed as having some members of Isis and sounding like Isis without the heavier metallic influences and no vocals. I enjoyed them, but something was missing.....almost like elevator music or something/edit that's not fair-I really liked Red S but.....given the choice, I'd rather listen to Isis.

 

Neurosis...everyone under the sun sites them as an influence. Their album "The Eye of Every Storm" is quite interesting...very folksy and textured....but essentially devoid of heavy. It almost has a Tom Waits quality-at least vocally. I like it, will listen to it from time to time. Yet, I find them more engaging with the sort of slow burn that has a pay off with some crushing parts.


Edited by markm1 - 9/21/13 at 5:22am
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post #11621 of 17006
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Originally Posted by Trogdor View Post


You know even though I agree with most of you regarding Alcest, I do think he peaked with Écailles de Lune. To me, that is his magnum opus. I really want him to go back to that but incorporate some of the "happy" elements of later albums. I thought Les Voyages was too "happy" but still beautiful.

 

I'd like to see some of that too. One of the reasons I like Les Voyages best is the production. Every time I listen to that album it's a completely enveloping experience, and I feel like closing my eyes to take it all in. I don't get that at all with Écailles de Lune, even though musically I like it almost as much. It sounds noticeably more raw, too. If Neige can recreate that experience with the new album, I'll be happy.

post #11622 of 17006
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post
 

 

Yeah, so then the question given the Alcest sound-is does it need to be metal? Can it function as something else? And, what is that thing it becomes without metal? Hopefylly not Yanni:wink_face:

 

 I think I know what shoegaze sounds like through metal. But I'm sure I haven't heard a true shoegaze album. Of course their are any number of bands who have dropped metal from their sound. I picked up Ulver's Blood Inside a few years ago-I should actually listen to it again.

 

I got on a major Isis kick around the time that Panopticon came out and basically decided they were the best thing since sliced bread. Remember the Red Sparrowes? They were billed as having some members of Isis and sounding like Isis without the heavier metallic influences and no vocals. I enjoyed them, but something was missing.....almost like elevator music or something/edit that's not fair-I really liked Red S but.....given the choice, I'd rather listen to Isis.

 

Neurosis...everyone under the sun sites them as an influence. Their album "The Eye of Every Storm" is quite interesting...very folksy and textured....but essentially devoid of heavy. It almost has a Tom Waits quality-at least vocally. I like it, will listen to it from time to time. Yet, I find them more engaging with the sort of slow burn that has a pay off with some crushing parts.

 

Yea, I was on a pretty big Isis and Neurosis kick back in the day. I also really dug, and still do, Red Sparowes. But I still see the point you're trying to make. Sometimes trying to stay too rigid in the confines of Metal can make seemingly beautiful stuff seem uninteresting because of a bias towards wanting that "Metal" vibe. You can miss out on a lot of really cool stuff. I think I've broken down a bunch of my musical biases as I really enjoy a ton of different styles of music beyond Metal. 
post #11623 of 17006

Alright, so I'm just going to put all of the good bands I've found in the past few weeks into one post rather than keep spreading them out... get ready. Lots of post-metal.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Alkahest - Post/Doom

 

Dopamine - Post/Black

 

Silence of the Old Man - Post/Black 

 

Galaktik Cancer Squad - BM with a lot of variety

 

Dreadnought - Just calling it Prog wouldn't be fair. I have absolutely no idea where to start. A lot of jazz and BM in there. 

 

Enshine - Post metal with some almost doom vocals

 

Mourning Beloveth - Death/Doom

 

Lìam - Post-metal, slightly Black

 

I've been busy.


Edited by macrocheesium - 9/21/13 at 2:23pm
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post #11625 of 17006
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Originally Posted by macrocheesium View Post
 

Alright, so I'm just going to put all of the good bands I've found in the past few weeks into one post rather than keep spreading them out... get ready. Lots of post-metal.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

Alkahest - Post/Doom

 

 

Dopamine - Post/Black

 

 

Silence of the Old Man - Post/Black

 

 

Galaktik Cancer Squad - BM with a lot of variety

 

 

Dreadnought - Just calling it Prog wouldn't be fair. I have absolutely no idea where to start. A lot of jazz and BM in there.

 

 

Enshine - Post metal with some almost doom vocals

 

 

Mourning Beloveth - Death/Doom

 

 

Lìam - Post-metal, slightly Black

 

I've been busy.

Holy Crap-this is metal I can get into....good stuff! I wonder how far the Post Black Metal trend is going to go....interesting sounds  you found for sure.

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