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That made no sense whatsoever. Cool.


Part of it was just a day in their life where they all were somehow summoned to do a small gig in a bar. Then they threw in the rubber gorilla and goat to make it like an art film. Still though the only thing that mattered was they sound great and the small group of barfly metalers were totally into it.

It just proves one more time how great metal can overcome all the bull-sheet around.
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Part of it was just a day in their life where they all were somehow summoned to do a small gig in a bar. Then they threw in the rubber gorilla and goat to make it like an art film. Still though the only thing that mattered was they sound great and the small group of barfly metalers were totally into it.

It just proves one more time how great metal can overcome all the bull-sheet around.

 

Are you very old? You always sound so metal-wise.

post #10383 of 15144

Really really awesome track!




Not metal by any stretch of the imagination but even better:


The percussion/drumming is just...wow.

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Originally Posted by wrathzombie View Post

 

Are you very old? You always sound so metal-wise.

I'll be 52 in March .......so ya.....totally old!

 

Metal keeps me young though.

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I am off now. See you soon \m/

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I mostly don't get black metal at all. I literally listened to "Wolves in The Throne Room" 5 times, back-to-back, still didn't get it.

 

So why do I get Akercocke?? Why am I listening to them now (Goat of Mendes) and enjoying it? Why does "Rape of The Bastard Nazarene" genuinely disturb me? They're a band that I think I really should hate and laugh at but I keep getting drawn back into them, especially late at night, after a few drinks.

 

Or I did. They've split up now haven't they? Satanists...you can't trust them.
 

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I today watched a really great documentary on black metal on YouTube (black metal satanica, sorry no link) it was really scary LOL it is very much about the left hand path

I'm not into the whole philosophy (other than a touch of misanthropy) but I love black metal music, the feeling and atmosphere can really get me sometimes. But...I probably don't really "get it" either, and really don't care. If you like it, you like it
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Most of the time I don't listen to the "real and trve cvlt" black metal. I can't take 90% of the bands serious.
Watain and Marduk are good examples of this category I CAN take serious.

But when it comes to black metal in general, I mainly listen to hipster black metal or bands like Moonsorrow (♥)

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I today watched a really great documentary on black metal on YouTube (black metal satanica, sorry no link) it was really scary LOL it is very much about the left hand path

I'm not into the whole philosophy (other than a touch of misanthropy) but I love black metal music, the feeling and atmosphere can really get me sometimes. But...I probably don't really "get it" either, and really don't care. If you like it, you like it

 

 

I think I may have seen that documentary before...I found it on Youtube and will watch it again tomorrow. IIRC, I found it faintly ridiculous and largely hilarious the first time.

 

I'm, without a doubt, a philanthrope. I was that bloke (20 years ago!) picking people off the floor at gigs and making sure they're OK, not stage diving wearing Docs or spikes, or wearing any kind of spikes or studs at gigs at all. I hate watching documentaries about Slayer (usually) now, where there are 12,640 shots of bloody faces...in the late 80s/early 90s, most of the blood was in the toilets and usually due to a missed stage dive. We were a small group and we looked after each other.

 

Perhaps this was because there was a general "extreme music" scene...which was very small...driven pretty much by hardcore punk. If you liked Slayer, you liked Terrorizer, you liked Napalm Death, you liked Extreme Noise Terror, you liked Prophecy of Doom, you liked Heresy, you liked Discharge. Turn up at a lot of those gigs with a violent attitude and you'll be shown the door.

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I think I may have seen that documentary before...I found it on Youtube and will watch it again tomorrow. IIRC, I found it faintly ridiculous and largely hilarious the first time.

I'm, without a doubt, a philanthrope. I was that bloke (20 years ago!) picking people off the floor at gigs and making sure they're OK, not stage diving wearing Docs or spikes, or wearing any kind of spikes or studs at gigs at all. I hate watching documentaries about Slayer (usually) now, where there are 12,640 shots of bloody faces...in the late 80s/early 90s, most of the blood was in the toilets and usually due to a missed stage dive. We were a small group and we looked after each other.

Perhaps this was because there was a general "extreme music" scene...which was very small...driven pretty much by hardcore punk. If you liked Slayer, you liked Terrorizer, you liked Napalm Death, you liked Extreme Noise Terror, you liked Prophecy of Doom, you liked Heresy, you liked Discharge. Turn up at a lot of those gigs with a violent attitude and you'll be shown the door.

I saw most of my metal shows in the late 80's/early 90's, there was never a violence within the scene but metal is generally far darker and more violent than most music, it's part of my (and others) attraction to it...I am no pacifist or philanthrope by any stretch but I'm a long ways from Watain for sure LOL. Considering where black metal originally came from (as in the original intent) its no surprise there is some physical manifestation of the violence of the music, some of it is intentionally trying to "hurt" the listener. I think of it as more than faintly ridiculous a lot of the time...but then again metal has always been a very theatrical outlet
If you watch that documentary, there is a section on the shining, that dude is seriously crazy talk and that was scary, not laughable
Edited by ferday - 7/6/13 at 8:36pm
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Originally Posted by ferday View Post

I today watched a really great documentary on black metal on YouTube (black metal satanica, sorry no link) it was really scary LOL it is very much about the left hand path

I'm not into the whole philosophy (other than a touch of misanthropy) but I love black metal music, the feeling and atmosphere can really get me sometimes. But...I probably don't really "get it" either, and really don't care. If you like it, you like it


Same here. I don't get the culture and I have no interest in joining, but I enjoy the music (mostly just the atmospheric type). Although I'm sure a lot of the guys are really serious about it, I also suspect a lot of "extreme" BM bands are just doing it for appearance and/or shock value.

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I listen to a lot of 'extreme' or 'challenging' music styles (whatever you want to call it), a good bit of them being under the metal genre.  I have some good friends who are exclusively into black metal and similar, so when I hang out with them I really stand out because I rarely wear black. tongue.gif  As a whole though, each of us enjoys a lot of different metal styles but we have many artists and similarities we can all agree are great.  It's a pretty comprehensive collective and I'm always hearing new stuff I enjoy.  Strangely enough, the shows with 'the most violent crowds' I've seen were actually punk shows back in the day, only surpassed by seeing Cannibal Corpse playing in a gravel lot.  Not many fights or violent moshing at almost all the metal shows I've seen.  So, like some of you I just purely enjoy the music, and don't subscribe to much of the culture...it would be lost on me anyway.  I suspect that any band with any given style is doing it for appearance and for a culture or movement they stand behind, which I totally respect as it's part of what the artist values.  I don't have to live and breathe black metal (or any sub-genre, really) to fully enjoy and appreciate it.

 

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I today watched a really great documentary on black metal on YouTube (black metal satanica, sorry no link) it was really scary LOL it is very much about the left hand path

I'm not into the whole philosophy (other than a touch of misanthropy) but I love black metal music, the feeling and atmosphere can really get me sometimes. But...I probably don't really "get it" either, and really don't care. If you like it, you like it
 

 

The best black metal documentary I've seen is called Until The Light Takes Us, and for those interested it's on YouTube (in english, dubbed in spanish): 

 

 

It mostly follows the major second wave Norwegian bands interviewing various members about the scene then and now.

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Originally Posted by ferday View Post

I today watched a really great documentary on black metal on YouTube (black metal satanica, sorry no link) it was really scary LOL it is very much about the left hand path

I'm not into the whole philosophy (other than a touch of misanthropy) but I love black metal music, the feeling and atmosphere can really get me sometimes. But...I probably don't really "get it" either, and really don't care. If you like it, you like it

oh my god. That documentary was so bad. The narrator was talking too much. It was ugghh. Or did i not get it all? 

 

Until the light takes us is much better.

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oh my god. That documentary was so bad. The narrator was talking too much. It was ugghh. Or did i not get it all? 

 

Until the light takes us is much better.

of course it was bad, but...it had a great overview kind of history.  until the light was too focussed on one small part of the scene.  plus until the light had an ambient soundtrack where this one had...black metal LOL. Ill re watch until the light though

 

i've seen 4 or 5 BM "documentaries" and this one was my favourite for actual information that goes a little deeper and the shining interview was sketchy awesome (the narration was horrrrrrible).  the "best" one is by Bill Zebub (can't remember the name, but it's easy to find) and makes fun of a lot of the artists...only some of them pick up on that during the interviews and it's pretty funny


Or, maybe I'm just way too into B-horror movies and terribly done stuff just doesn't affect me anymore ha ha

Edit: for those really looking for a deeper history, metalion:the slayer mag diaries was an excellent book, as well as Tom warriors book only death is real. I'm a history junkie and while no expert, I'll take any recommendations any of you have good or bad!
Edited by ferday - 7/7/13 at 11:21am
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Originally Posted by wrathzombie View Post

oh my god. That documentary was so bad. The narrator was talking too much. It was ugghh. Or did i not get it all? 

 

Until the light takes us is much better.

of course it was bad, but...it had a great overview kind of history.  until the light was too focussed on one small part of the scene.  plus until the light had an ambient soundtrack where this one had...black metal LOL. Ill re watch until the light though

 

i've seen 4 or 5 BM "documentaries" and this one was my favourite for actual information that goes a little deeper and the shining interview was sketchy awesome (the narration was horrrrrrible).  the "best" one is by Bill Zebub (can't remember the name, but it's easy to find) and makes fun of a lot of the artists...only some of them pick up on that during the interviews and it's pretty funny


Or, maybe I'm just way too into B-horror movies and terribly done stuff just doesn't affect me anymore ha ha

Edit: for those really looking for a deeper history, metalion:the slayer mag diaries was an excellent book, as well as Tom warriors book only death is real. I'm a history junkie and while no expert, I'll take any recommendations any of you have good or bad!

Hmm. I didn't see that but makes sense.

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