How bright is an ultrasone pro 900? - Page 2

Yeah, nothing funny about it, why would you think so? Look, I have no intention of mudslinging, but your attitude isn't helping it either.
I'm not exactly making a list, I was just pointing out that I'm not alone with my opinion and I'm not the only one saying the PRO 900 has extreme bass. AND I'm obviously not reading enough threads here at head-fi to notice that actually every owner except me (your words) found their PRO 900 totally "settled" (your word) after burn-in. I don't have any statistics on its bass performance before/after burn in and I don't intend to make any.

Believe it or not, I do, too. But you're obviously not trying to understand my point. It's all good to talk all day about auditory impressions, but in the end we're all subjective beings and not always getting terminology straight (myself included). What's so wrong about measurements as an approach to making things more objective? No one's asking you to take measurements yourself, I'm merely asking you to explain why you think it's useless to consider measurements as a means of comparison and discussion at all.

I don't know the mentioned Stax so I can't comment on that. I just know that out of all the hifi-headphones I've heard, the PRO 900 is by far the headphone with the most extreme bass output.
Something can't be right here. Maybe you do have a different version of the PRO 900, but I still don't believe this all changed with burn-in.

Yeah, so let me tell you the rest of the story: they sound pretty different

Ok I'm done. All I was trying to do is give some retrospect to the Ultra 900's, if you want other people's opinions about them, just do a search on this (and the ultrasone part of this website) forum. You will find that I'm not the only one really enjoying this headphone, and not the only one who's bass is fully settled and not overemphesized. It's really too bad big-ban, not only have you taken my fun away of writing (and reading) in this thread, but you end up just the way you started responding on this thread, with your own experience/opinion and nothing more.

@ph0rk: I think we're drifting OT, but in my experience, the W11JPN has many similarities with the HD650. It's not as natural sounding (upper mids spike) but the overall tonality is somewhat similar. Technically, the two are somewhat comparable with maybe a slight edge for the HD650.
Since you're not so much into the D2000/D5000 (which would be the obvious choice for a closed version of the HD650), maybe you'd like the W2002. My modded version has very good forward mids and amazing deep bass that doesn't sound as 'wooly' as the HD650's bass. Technically, I'd rate the W2002 a notch higher than the HD650.

@vvanrij: *sigh*... relax! I wasn't trying to take away your or anyone else's fun and enjoyment of the PRO 900. The only problem is that I'm having a hard time believing in such drastic effects of burn-in, I think there's something else. Let's leave it at that for the time being, shall we? I'll report back in a few weeks and we'll see if the developments of burn-in are measurable (as they should be if they're as drastic as you claim). And now: peace!

Just for information:

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/fir...pro900-380679/

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/ult...pinion-377455/

Good point, there is very little information about them on these forums I agree, but I don't want to spoil their reputation either. I love them, alot, but if one person goes to every pro900 thread to give his opinion, you will soon look like an annoying fanboy, which is something I very much try to avoid.

I just bought a ALO-780 so when it arrives I'm gonna test it agains the Pro-900.

arent the alo-780's the ones that are supposed to sound almost like the edition 9?
youll have to tell us how they compare to them if they are.

It's good to start with the ED9, and go down the line to the HFI-550/580.
Two different cans that have different acoustic structures, three different drivers and a lot of cross combinations between them. Each model has it's own special sound, and each model has a lot to offer to the listener. If you are a little bit of a basshead, Ultrasone are made for you. I would not recommend them for studio use, but I would definitely recommend them for listening to music.

Well I have to agree not to use them for studio use (though Peter Pinna strongly disagree's with that, I expect him any minute here ), but thats from my own (home-studio) use experience.

Well, it's fine to use them in the studio if you want, but there are so many parameters that need to be taken into consideration, that it just takes the focus off of what you really need to be doing in the studio. But, again, they're a great experience!

Regarding Mr. Pinna: I'm running away now...before he posts his next tirade.

I am not posting to express a "tirade". I'm not sure I know how to
"tirade". My belief in the Pro 750 as a professional studio / production headphone is extremely well documented in these forums and I think it isn't necessary for me to repeat myself here in this thread. (BTW, "ask" Ultrasone and you will find that the Pro 750 was designed originally and mainly for studio / production purposes.)
No, I am posting only for one purpose. To give the original meaning of "brain burn-in". Actually, this was a phrase that was coined originally, AFAIK, by Covenant when he was referring to the idea of the brain becoming accustomed to the S-Logic effect in that some people are able to initially here it and some can't. And, after a period of listening some of those people who initially could not hear the S-Logic effect are eventually able to hear it. He referred to that idea / process as "brain burn-in". AFAIK, his original "definition" had nothing to do with the sound of various frequencies.
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