PC to Mac: My Not-So-Genius Switch - Page 16  

You make it sound like Apple innovated the computer, where a great deal of others have done the exact same thing. PCs aren't typically sold as an package because of their ability to be configured in so many different ways, its limitless. Techies understand this so well, if there was a perfect headphone that could be used anywhere at anytime on anything then please show me. There is nothing that comes out of the factory the way everybody wants it, that's why people have to tinker with headphones, computers and cars just to get the right configuration.

But if you seriously do not know where to start then get what the companies recommend you with their all-in-one packages. I'd rather get a cheaper system and more software including free ones that does the job.

I think you're missing the point, a great deal of our products are indeed made in China, but nothing compares to the incredible markups that Apple puts on all their products. The old iPod cost less than $20 to make, it sold for 10 times as much. When an equivalent product comes out at $50 cheaper its not good enough because its not expensive.



How can you tell me that Apple used to put all those things in their computers as a good thing, and none of it in their macs today as equally good? You seem to forget that Apple is such a company that jumps on every new technology created out there which is why they appear to be the first at having the ethernet, modem and so one. Apple tried to capitalise on proprietary stuff like firewire because they felt that the video industry will one day make it a standard and be rewarded financially for it (it didn't).

As for the crap that you think PC laptops have, well I like my built-in memory card reader, remote control, media control buttons, 3/4 USB ports, s-video out (yes I still connect to movie projectors and TVs) and 1920x1200 LCD screen on my 15.4" notebook.

I don't ever want unnecessary dongles and accessories sticking out of my USB ports like a Christmas tree except for external hard drives.

Which begs the question, why being a software is it still so expensive?

True Mac's are not for tweakers they are for people that just want to take it out of the
box hook it up and do the task they require their increased sales even in these economic
times have proved that. I am sure the more popularity they gain the more bashing will
increase.

Hugs his Mac's!

Apple have innovated considerably. The iLife suite of software is the epitome of that IMO. iMovie gave ordinary people the ability to make awesome movies just using drag-and-drop from a digicam. Garageband has done the same thing for amateur bands and podcasters. Previously, to do that, you had to pay thousands of dollars for professional software, and spend a great many hours learning how to use it.

They were the first to: use magnetic latches in a notebook, use a power cable that wouldn't send your laptop flying if you tripped over the cable, make a brand-name computer using USB, sell a computer that uses a mouse, sell a computer with a graphical user interface, design a PDA, develop useable handwriting recognition and...shall I go on? I'd probably hit the post word limit if I did.

PCs are typically sold as a package. I worked in retail. Most people are too clueless to build a PC. The major difference is the iMac, and in that you are correct. But the main point is a the same, as people going to a store will buy whatever package of computer, monitor and whatever is on special that day.

How much does it cost per iPod for all the development it took to design it?

Apple doesn't jump on every new technology (there are far more new things out there that Apple never used than you might imagine). They jump on what they see is the future of technology. They also put in their machines what is used and useful for their customers.

Check the second-hand market value of a Mac and a PC notebook that started out the same price in a year or two after they were made. But to answer your question directly, look at the software you get with a Mac, and the software you get with a PC, and what it can do. You are most definitely paying for the whole experience.

LOL - Its a technical term

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...-london-office
Flaming laptop fiasco explodes again - The Inquirer

This thread has just turned into a Mac vs. PC flaming thread. There are enough of these around already.

Yes, Macs do have their design flaws... BUT... most PC's usually have twice because most (i said most because that does not mean all...) are poorly made. Yes, I am aware that the MBP have heat issues, as the previous poster said, they always have. I also have an old HP laptop lying around somewhere... the power adapter is broken (from normal use) and i've reinstalled windows over 4 times on it. Over two years using my MBP and OS X, ive never had a Kernel Panic and it's only frozen up once or twice. Everything from encoding and playing 1080p movies to a normal Firefox browser session with over 300 tabs open in usually 4 windows. Now I think that's quality...

EDIT: Oh, also forgot... yes, I do live in Melbourne as my sig says. Yes, I do have to put up with the Australian currency against the greenback. Yes, I do know how much a 17" MacBook Pro costs. It's up to yourself as an individual to know if you want to spend that much. Personally, I think OS X is 100% better than Windows. Yes, I know there is going to be more firing posts at me by Windows fanboys but your really paying for 'the experience' and reliability. You make the choice.

^ Yeah, sadly all threads discussing Mac's or Mac OS X turn into flaming threads.

^ Yeah, I think I just added too the argument a bit too much

Define poorly made.

How about this?

Laptop reliability – the best and worst | csmonitor.com

They are all very similar. How could they be different. They use the same parts and are often made in the same handful of factories regardless of brand.

Any mass produced product can have flaws. Apple is far from immune from it, in fact they seem to suffer from more than most. Thats probably because they try to do things differently more often. But on the flip side they are usually very good at resolving these issues with easy repair/replace policies in place.

I'm sure that with Apple's small market share, any hardware/software flaws probably stand out a lot more. If 17 people out of 100 have problems, it's noticed. If 17 people out of 1,000,000 have problems then it's not as easily noticed.

That second 17 should theoretically go up as well- to something like 170,000 people out of a million would have problems.

Just boot-up time alone!
I sit there waiting and staring at my hard drive light on 2 different PC's (work and kids). In that time, I have booted up on my iMac, reviewed all my mail and Head-fi activities, and shut down, showered and shaved (you know, the 3 S's)

^^^^^ lol!! Also SSD are not fully supported by windows yet... In Mac OS are fully functional.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-9996317-64.html

Well said!
Mac OS X also have a really fast sleep/wake up function.