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post #91 of 173
I like the 303.
post #92 of 173
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Originally Posted by krmathis View Post
The SR-303 makes a really nice starter system imo.
For $70 more you can get an SR-404, where as said above the wide format cable are the difference. Its a slight difference, but I can't really say if its worth the price difference or not.

Either 'phone will give you a really nice taste of the Stax sound.
I was looking at the SRM-310, or SRM-252II so would this along an SR-303 be a good idea, Cambridge Azur 602 V2 for the source. can those amps i listed drive the 404's?

Cambridge -> SRM-310 -> SR 303

would that be a nice starter setup?
post #93 of 173
^SRM-1/mk2
post #94 of 173
+1 on a SRM-1/MK2 (Pro or P.P.)

Never heard the SRM-310, but suggest you look higher up the ladder than the SRM-252II. Where the SRM-1/MK2 come into my mind, as its one of the higher regarded Stax amplifiers.
post #95 of 173

I am about to get a little taste of stax

I joined head-fi only a relatively short time ago, inorder to collect some info before I purchased another headphone amp. I have listened to headphones since the 1960s, almost always from the headphone output of a receiver.

I bought a pair of inexpensive stax and energizer used, about 20 years ago -- dont remember the models. I remember thinking that they were Ok but I did not use them much. Of course, I did not have much of a source at the time. I did not get interested in phones again until I heard a pair of Grado RSIs and the stax had been stored for some time.

Lately, the way I hear music has changed. It's hard to describe, but I have developed certain awareness and preferences as I moved back and forth beween Grados and Senns and solid and tubes. My current best-sounding setup is my Nad t585 and Wadia i-transport, a Monarchhy upsampler, an AudioNote 1-1x sig dac, an MF x-10-D v3 buffer, all this a mix of tubes and solid, to my Opera Analog, and Senns 600 with an equinox cable, the latter happy choices being a result of what I have read in these forums.

I really like electrostatic and planar speakers, and I remembered that decades ago, I had a pair of superex that I thought were wonderful. And I am motivated by the sheer happy fanaticism of stax lovers, who seem to say "staxless you are really missing something."

So it's time to try the staxes again. To this effect I am borrowing back, for a period of time, my old staxes and energizer from the friend I eventually gave them to. Since I was in want of a portable amp for office and other outside stationary listening, I decided to purchase a mint used Sroo1, mk2which I got at a terrific price.

I want to jot down what I hear from these two setups and decide whether I want to pursue the stax thing further.

I am really enjoying reading the threads and I am starting to know something about the product.
post #96 of 173
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Originally Posted by dickbianchi View Post
I joined head-fi only a relatively short time ago, inorder to collect some info before I purchased another headphone amp. I have listened to headphones since the 1960s, almost always from the headphone output of a receiver.

I bought a pair of inexpensive stax and energizer used, about 20 years ago -- dont remember the models. I remember thinking that they were Ok but I did not use them much. Of course, I did not have much of a source at the time. I did not get interested in phones again until I heard a pair of Grado RSIs and the stax had been stored for some time.

Lately, the way I hear music has changed. It's hard to describe, but I have developed certain awareness and preferences as I moved back and forth beween Grados and Senns and solid and tubes. My current best-sounding setup is my Nad t585 and Wadia i-transport, a Monarchhy upsampler, an AudioNote 1-1x sig dac, an MF x-10-D v3 buffer, all this a mix of tubes and solid, to my Opera Analog, and Senns 600 with an equinox cable, the latter happy choices being a result of what I have read in these forums.

I really like electrostatic and planar speakers, and I remembered that decades ago, I had a pair of superex that I thought were wonderful. And I am motivated by the sheer happy fanaticism of stax lovers, who seem to say "staxless you are really missing something."

So it's time to try the staxes again. To this effect I am borrowing back, for a period of time, my old staxes and energizer from the friend I eventually gave them to. Since I was in want of a portable amp for office and other outside stationary listening, I decided to purchase a mint used Sroo1, mk2which I got at a terrific price.

I want to jot down what I hear from these two setups and decide whether I want to pursue the stax thing further.

I am really enjoying reading the threads and I am starting to know something about the product.



Very interesting!!


I'm using a pair of Grado SRS-125 Headphones which sound very good with the Musical Fed V3 Headphone amp.

If I don't manage to get the nice Stax Headphones, I might consider going for another Grado Headphone, Maybe the SR325i or the RS1.



Happy new year.
post #97 of 173
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
If it came from SACD-man then yes, along with the SR-5NB that he got from me in a three way deal where slwiser got one of my SRM-1 Mk2 pro.

EDIT - meaning it started out as an SRD-X that Fitz cleaned up and re-cased. These respond pretty well to a tube pre-amp.
Ahh, I did spot correctly then. As well as having quite a bit of bass (with a sharp drop-off only in the deep bass) they are very bright, but in a good way, making the soft-sounding Northstar DAC and equally relaxed VDH carbon cables a good match.

I'm wondering if getting a good power supply made up to replace the wall-wart is worth doing. I asked about having one made, and was asked in turn whether it had to supply 12V/1amp consistently or variably (ie: varying voltage), which I couldn't answer. I could also find another Stax amp, but I rather like the convenience of the re-boxed SRD-X and its size.
post #98 of 173

grados, stax and all

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Originally Posted by TDL-speakers View Post
If I don't manage to get the nice Stax Headphones, I might consider going for another Grado Headphone, Maybe the SR325i or the RS1.
Happy new year.
Happy New Year to you too.
I have never heard the 325. I own a pair of 125s which I had when I bought the RS1s. That latter was a quantum leap ahead of it, which you'd expect considering the price. If you have a grado dealer nearby, he likely has all of them and you can assess the differences. There is a mini-review of rs1 and 325 on the "headphones (full size)" forum.

With my Senns recabling was a major upgrade, like getting a new amp. Often you can find recabled 325s or RS1s for sale on headfi at good prices. I plan to recable my RS1s after I make a decision about going balanced or going stax.
post #99 of 173
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
Ahh, I did spot correctly then. As well as having quite a bit of bass (with a sharp drop-off only in the deep bass) they are very bright, but in a good way, making the soft-sounding Northstar DAC and equally relaxed VDH carbon cables a good match.

I'm wondering if getting a good power supply made up to replace the wall-wart is worth doing. I asked about having one made, and was asked in turn whether it had to supply 12V/1amp consistently or variably (ie: varying voltage), which I couldn't answer. I could also find another Stax amp, but I rather like the convenience of the re-boxed SRD-X and its size.
It should benefit from an upgraded PSU like a 12v Sigma 11 PSU with negative tip polarity.
post #100 of 173
With 404's you will have to be careful setting up a system using the SRM-1 mk2 / mk2 Pro. The amp is slightly bright and so are the cans, not a "perfect" match IMHO. The sound can be tailored with both proper source and cable choices, but of course this takes a bit of careful juggling. It is one of the reasons some people believe that Stax are slightly bright - a number of the S/S amps can do that, and it is especially noticable with the latest series of earspeakers because of their extended high frequency response versus the Lambda Pro. (which is what the SRM-1 mk2 was designed to drive).
post #101 of 173
How is the SRM323II for that matter? Also bright? I did choose a warm source (nad cd-player).
post #102 of 173
Just remember my "slightly" clause: the SRM-1 is "slightly" bright.

I have not personally heard the 323, especially with the 404's. I would reasonably believe / hope that the 323 should sound a touch more mellow than the SRM-1, if only because the SRM-1 design is now 25 years old.

Don't use silver IC's and choose a set that is known for both good neutrality, going to warmth, as well as detail. And BTW, I have found that the Stax energizers do not react well to standard AC filtering so don't plug a Stax into any type of power strip or surge suppressor (unless you have AC treatment that includes voltage regulation, then that's OK)
post #103 of 173
Hmm good point, the energy supliance in the Netherlands is one fo the best in the world, so there is no need for filtering of 'dirty power', but I do use powerstrips, so they have to go
post #104 of 173
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Originally Posted by Snake View Post
With 404's you will have to be careful setting up a system using the SRM-1 mk2 / mk2 Pro. The amp is slightly bright and so are the cans, not a "perfect" match IMHO. The sound can be tailored with both proper source and cable choices, but of course this takes a bit of careful juggling. It is one of the reasons some people believe that Stax are slightly bright - a number of the S/S amps can do that, and it is especially noticable with the latest series of earspeakers because of their extended high frequency response versus the Lambda Pro. (which is what the SRM-1 mk2 was designed to drive).
Are you saying the SR-404 is more extended (and elevated I assume) in the treble than the Lambda Pro? That's interesting, because the Lambda Pro is the same way compared to the normal bias Lambda. I think I'll pass on the new Lambda frames, then.
post #105 of 173

well I get to listen: SRD-4,SR-30, Baby Stax Portable

Got the stuff together. My baby stax portable arrived and I've been listening for a couple of days from an ipod mini-pin to mini-pin.

Impressions mostly good and frequently impressive. Especially impressed by the fact that when i hear a vocal, I "see" a person singing, it is not just a voice in space. And the detail is exquisite. With one jazz singer, I heard some nasality when she sang; there is the uncanny impession that the nasality was always there when i listened to that song, but I hadn't heard it till now. I am hearing instrumenal timbres and naturalness that is new to me in stuff I listen to all the time, and attack and decay that is very natural. Want to listen with a lot of different source stuff in front of it.

Got my old stax outfit. I dont remember when I listened to it last and tomorrow Ill connect it to my power amp and listen a bit. The energizer is SRD-4 (I cant find it on the list. 3 is 1965 and 5 is 1968) and the earspeaker is SR 30 Electret (1980). Anybody know anything about them?
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