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post #46 of 58

And i have sound stage with my apple earbuds.

post #47 of 58

OP exposed himself when he put HD650 directly to clipwink.gif

post #48 of 58

Those are the ones which i have somehow managed to spoil a week ago. The right side is not working and i am trying to find a cheap alternative. May be i can't find one if they are so good. mad.gif

post #49 of 58

I always throw the Sansa stock earbuds away. I listen to each one of them and just do not like them. I much prefer the stock Cowon D2 earbuds. Now those did sound OK. The other ones I like came from a chinese Onda player. I can't remember the model. The Sansas on the other hand are not that great. Cheap $10 Sony earbuds sound better.

post #50 of 58

I have three sets of earbuds from different players and they sound very different:

 

From a Sansa e250R

Design: 3 small side holes in the back, not covered by foam pad. Long rubber strain relief from each earbud

Sound: Forward mids, weak lows and bass, okay highs with strong rolloff, good clarity

 

From a Sansa c240

Design: 5 small top holes in the back, not covered by foam pad. Short rubber strain relief from each earbud

Sound: Recessed mids, very boomy low-mids, which makes it sound like they lack clarity, weak highs

 

From a Sansa Connect

Design: 3 small side holes in the back, covered by foam pad. No rubber strain relief at all from each earbud

Sound: Forward mids, acceptable lows and bass, okay highs with strong rolloff, good clarity

 

The one from the Connect do sound a lot like my Sennheiser HD535 amped, with a bit less extension both ends.

post #51 of 58

Yeah I agree that the Sansa Clip+ stock earphones sound good, too good to be exact for me. At first try I found them a little muddy and bloated, but after using them for a month or two those babies really did opened up, they sound very clear and smooth, but they lack extensions on both ends (highs and lows)... But hey they are stock earphones, and I can't compare any stock earphones that can beat them (for me wink.gif)... And for that I can Endure a very long process of saving up money to buy a mid-fi Hp, portable amp and other things that I'm going to buy  

post #52 of 58

This thread = eek.gif

I love my sansa but the stock buds are just awful.

The old apple stock earbuds are better.

The Philips SHE3000 are way better than the old apple earbuds.

The stock buds which came with my Live Walkman (Sony MH410) are way better than the SHE3000

post #53 of 58

The Sennheiser MX475 earbuds (€25) are clearly superior to the sansa stock buds that come with the Sansa Clip Zip. They have greater clarity, a more detailed sound, a larger soundstage, better imaging, less sibilance (the Sansa buds really hurt my ears with their harsh sibilance) and less harmonic distortion. They really sound quite a lot better. And although the sansa buds are a bit heavy on the mid bass, the mid bass disappears on some songs as it is pushed away by the mids (the drivers are not of very high quality). The Sennheiser's, with better quality drivers, do not suffer from this problem.

 

The sansa stock buds are certainly not terrible, for stock buds, but they don't sound excellent either. If you spend €25 on e.g. the Sennheiser MX475 earbuds you can get much better sound from your Clip Zip.

post #54 of 58

Make this mod to them and they will kill Sennheiser MX475

post #55 of 58
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Originally Posted by presata View Post
 

Make this mod to them and they will kill Sennheiser MX475

 

What mod are you talking about? Can you clarify your point further. I'm not sure what I can deduce from your picture, I only see that you don't have ear pads over your sansa buds. Is the mod removing the ear pads which are glued on? I don't think this will solve the many shortcomings of the sansa buds compared to the MX475. Immersion is simply much lower with the Sansa buds.

post #56 of 58

i remove the plastic to

post #57 of 58
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i remove the plastic to


Ok, thanks for clarifying. But I wonder if you've ever listened to the Sennheiser MX475 earbuds. I have listened to them extensively and they are the best earbuds in their price range I've ever heard. I don't think a very cheap Sansa earbud with ear pad and plastic removed can beat it.

post #58 of 58
Reading through this thread some of it is pretty funny but I agree that some of those old buds were decent enough. Coincidentally a few days ago I dusted off some old earbuds to try with a new Hifimediy USB DAC (idle curiosity, not serious enquiry).

I have two different sets of buds which came with iRiver players between 7 and 10 years ago: one is a mediocre iRiver branded generic item and the other is branded both iRiver and Sennheiser, appears to be MX 400, and sounds acceptable, certainly better than those I've received with Nokia and Archos phones and tablets, or with Sansa Clip+ and Fuze v2 players (I threw out the Sansa buds, no regrets).

I also have an older pair of Sennheiser MX-5 which at the time I bought them (2001 I think) was Sennheiser's top of the line earbud, and which I originally used with a MiniDisc Walkman. It does sound quite good and I remember liking the sound at the time but also being very frustrated at zero isolation. I used to travel a lot and was pleased and relieved when in ear monitors/ear canal earphones appeared and haven't used earbuds since. I've not yet lived anywhere so quiet that earbuds are much use outdoors and in any case if isolation isn't required the Koss KSC75 are so superior to all these earbuds that the buds are pointless unless using a very low output player that struggles with slightly higher impedance 'phones ...errr.. like a Clip...

I think I just talked myself into donating all my earbuds to a charity shop.
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