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post #16 of 31
12/10/08 at 11:06pm
I wonder how many forumers here upgrade the stock cable to others?
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post #17 of 31
12/10/08 at 11:18pm
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9 out of 10 peope tested using a "fake" dual entry K701 as well as a "real" dual entry K701 could not accurately detect any difference between the two.*
95% of statistics are made up
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post #18 of 31
12/10/08 at 11:38pm
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it's still single ended.
But bi-wired, so the stock cable can be balanced, for example: http://www.headphone.com/products/he...tock-cable.php


This is impossible with the K702 stock cable (even if SAA sells a balanced cable) as the connector on the headphone itself only has three conductors.
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post #19 of 31
12/11/08 at 12:07am
I bought my 702s used w/ zu mobius so it wasn't really an upgrade..more of a "bonus." As far as I can tell, there really is no difference in left/right that is noticeable. If that was the case, one could argue that your ears themselves are not the same.

I have the stock cable as well but I haven't really bothered to compare. I just regard the zu as better but I guess the bass is a little tighter and the sound is more engaging? I honestly don't care
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post #20 of 31
12/11/08 at 1:01am
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I have the stock cable as well but I haven't really bothered to compare. I just regard the zu as better but I guess the bass is a little tighter and the sound is more engaging?
Maybe you can do a quick compare Zu Vs stock cable...
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post #21 of 31
12/11/08 at 7:01am
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Maybe you can do a quick compare Zu Vs stock cable...
Well I have a couple times actually, just haven't come to any real conclusions. Since I have to plug and replug both ends, it's not perfect but overall as I said the bass is a little tighter and I guess it's a tad darker. If you couldn't tell, I don't believe much in cables. I don't believe it can really alter the sound to noticeable amounts but fwiw I think there is a difference...for today. Maybe I'll do more comparisons tomorrow.
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post #22 of 31
12/11/08 at 10:24am
I am comparing SAA Equinox with the stock cable and I find the upgrade is have better clarity and tighter in bass department. Stock cable is just dead flat to my personal opinion.
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post #23 of 31
12/11/08 at 1:10pm
Then do a complete re-cable.
Replacing the cable from the plug to the left housing, and the cable from the left housing through the headband to the right housing.
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post #24 of 31
12/11/08 at 1:19pm
this same argument about a lesser internal wire applies to all headphones with detachable cables, HD600/650's, Ultrasones, and Qualias included, along with the AKG K702's and Studios

even with an recable of the internal cabling as well, youre still passing through 2 extra solder joints plus a pressure connector - makes you wonder if a cable upgrade would be worthwhile, doesnt it?

i say hardwire the things
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post #25 of 31
12/11/08 at 11:50pm
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Well I have a couple times actually, just haven't come to any real conclusions. Since I have to plug and replug both ends, it's not perfect but overall as I said the bass is a little tighter and I guess it's a tad darker. If you couldn't tell, I don't believe much in cables. I don't believe it can really alter the sound to noticeable amounts but fwiw I think there is a difference...for today. Maybe I'll do more comparisons tomorrow.
Compared a little more and I still can't say what exactly the zu does except for tighter bass but I can say that the stock cable sounds a lot flatter.
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post #26 of 31
12/12/08 at 5:14am
People like cactus_farmer make me more and more less-frequent visitor on head-fi.
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post #27 of 31
12/12/08 at 7:52am
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People like cactus_farmer make me more and more less-frequent visitor on head-fi.
Your wallet can thank me later
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post #28 of 31
12/12/08 at 4:28pm
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People like cactus_farmer make me more and more less-frequent visitor on head-fi.
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist
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post #29 of 31
12/12/08 at 5:26pm
whoa there. I think his questions are honest and out of curiosity. He's not saying "recables do not make a difference at all," or at least... that's not the message I'm getting. He's questioning the recable because of the fact that inside the headphone, the original wire is still there. WAY BETTER than a lot of the crap I've seen in the cables forum from certain strong advocates of both sides, who have killed the chance of any meaningful discussion many times, in my opinion.

I think his question is slightly misguided though-- The whole you've only recabled the left side view is wrong I believe. The recable of the mini-xlr itself, in no way can go "directly to the left driver," since that has to do with the wires inside the headphone and not the mini-xlr on the outside. Thus you've recabled everything up to the point where the XLR plugs meet, when only changing the mini-XLR cable.

If this is an attempt to say "cables are a sham," then I stand corrected, and the argument in this case is weak, since the presumption of "recabling only the left side" does not hold. Whether it makes a difference or not, is not something I'm here to make a statement on.
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post #30 of 31
1/22/09 at 10:52pm
I cant believe there are not more reviews on headfi comparing k702 cables
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