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post #16 of 88
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Originally Posted by soozieq View Post
Ha ha! Okay, I give in
And I do agree with you on one point. The W3 sound how I imagined the TF10 would sound (before I heard them), and also the Sennheiser IE8, if it had 3 drivers. But I like the TF10, (and you didn't, if I remember correctly?) Anyway, I definitely think the W3 sounds more open and encompassing than the TF10, that's for sure. But I do still like my Trips!
Yes, true.

TF10: detailed but warm, hazy, laid back...very colored.
W3: (I prefer): equally detailed but a brighter more open and lively sound...not quite as colored.

I think most would prefer the W3 due to the lively brighter sound.
post #17 of 88
I totally agree on this.


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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
My own experience is, top end universal IEM usually isn't about which is better, but rather it is more about finding the right sound for personal taste.
post #18 of 88
Nice impressions Spyro! I've already quelled that drivin voice in my head to get the W3 as soon as possible but a review like this, from someone whos degree of capturing impressions, and, of course level of experience in this marketplace, I respect, and often concur with (wheres there is shared crossover of experience), it justs cools me even more to wait until I'm ready for a new product and to not put it on myself prematurely/when I've already got enough to occupy myself, explore and enjoy. Coupled with the difficulty of obtaining a W3 in the UK at a decent price, I'm definately gona wait before buying and trying now. It can wait so let it wait!
post #19 of 88
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Originally Posted by andychen View Post
I totally agree on this.
Yeah but the journey could be quite expensive!
post #20 of 88
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post
Yes, true.

TF10: detailed but warm, hazy, laid back...very colored.
W3: (I prefer): equally detailed but a brighter more open and lively sound...not quite as colored.

I think most would prefer the W3 due to the lively brighter sound.
THANK you for posting this. I was really torn on whether to sell the Triple.fi's to get the W3's but I needed a proper, outright and basic comparison.

If the W3's are brighter then I'll definitely stick with the Triple.fi's; I have a real problem with sibilance.

You just saved me a ton of money.
post #21 of 88
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Originally Posted by andychen View Post
I totally agree on this.
X3. One should not try and be black and white with trying to two-tone categorise things as better or worse but should open themselves up to the abundant shades of grey and, of course, assess that against their tastes and preferences etc (and, of course, be open to letting them develop, grow, expand, evolve also)
post #22 of 88
Thanks, this thread stops me from getting another IEM that I don't need. Any recession of any kind in mid is a no-no for me.

Good to hear these don't stray far from rest of higher end universal IEMs. From other's impressions, they were approaching ESW10 level in terms of SQ. :S
post #23 of 88
Thread Starter 
One more thing. The very short nozzle length provides much less clearence from the housing when inserting the iem into your ear so it's difficult to insert it deeply. Add in the fact that the diameter of W3 is larger (it's flatter) so it makes it harder to insert than UM2 or SE530. This may not be a problem for everyone but worth noting. I'm sure the intention was to get the IEM seated flush and flat into your ear but my ear ergonomics wish for a longer nozzle. Can't fully please everyone. I can get the seal, it's just a little more difficult.
post #24 of 88
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post
Midrange: Definitely the weak spot. I wouldn’t say it’s terrible but it is certainly a step down from SE530.
Robert Harley stated in his book which is guide to high end audio that "the music is in the midrange" and "if the midrange isn't right, nothing else matters". So, this for me is a significant statement.

I agree that the Shures (E3C, E4C, E530) all have that wonderful midrange while lacking in other areas. I think that my hopes for a midpriced IEM to cover every aspect has vanished and now I realize that the UE10/11s are not as overpriced as I thought and are now on my radar as the next IEM for me to get.

I guess the FOTM (or initial excitement) is wearing down now and it's starting to look like the W3s are fitting into the mix of E530s/Triplefi10 (taste dependant) rather than transcending them.

When I read the glowing comments of the W3s being so incredible that words can't describe and the comment about them that kind of shocked me a bit "I don't see anything wrong with them" (perfect). , a red flag goes up. I've heard all of the top headphones, and I can find more than one thing wrong with every single one of them: HE90/R10/K-1000/HP-2/PS-1/L3000, O2, etc.

So, it's nice to see good reviews that aren't slamming or gloating about the W3s but giving a standard review of the good and bad.

I read these threads now just for interest as the UE10 or 11 is in my future... the Shures E500s will get me by until then while still leaving me a bit unblown-away as well.
post #25 of 88
Of course everyone's ears are different. Someone's minuscule difference is another's ear audio nirvana.
post #26 of 88
Can someone who owns both the SE530's and the W3 post pictures of them side-by-side so that we can view the stems. - Cheers.
post #27 of 88
gjc10212: they're in the thread below posted by prscustom.
They're also in a separate thread where I asked the same question :-)
post #28 of 88
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post
Add in the fact that the diameter of W3 is larger (it's flatter)
so it makes it harder to insert than UM2 or SE530. This may not be a problem for everyone but worth noting.
Yes, it is worth noting. I had the E500 for a few months, and could never feel them in my ears. They just melted away. And I had the UM2 for a day (!!), and thought they were even more comfortable than the E500. So I automatically assumed the W3 would be at LEAST as comfortable at the other two, and hopefully even more so. But they're just not!! Even with the small tips I used, the actual part that sits in my ear, feels much more intrusive than the E500 and UM2. I don't why I thought they were smaller than the other two, I just did.

When I look at how the W3 sits, I can see I have no space whatsoever between the edges of the earpiece and the inner edges of my ear. If you look at HeadphoneAddict's close up photo... http://www.head-fi.org/forums/5084947-post253.html ... and then imagine there is NO space around the earpiece, then that's how they fit me. It's a shame, because I worry I won't be able to tolerate long listening periods with them, which I do with my Trips. I can wear those for six straight hours and have no problems at all. But that's because the piece that goes in my ear is a lot smaller and doesn't press down on any tender parts. If the W3's were as comfortable as either of those, they'd be almost perfect.

By the way, I used them with a Sony A829 and iPod Touch 2G (no eq applied), and I didn't hear a recessed midrange at all. If it was any more forward, it would have been too much. It's more forward than the Trips and less forward than the IE8, which is just about the perfect balance for me.
post #29 of 88
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Originally Posted by soozieq View Post
Yes, it is worth noting. I had the E500 for a few months, and could never feel them in my ears. They just melted away. And I had the UM2 for a day (!!), and thought they were even more comfortable than the E500. So I automatically assumed the W3 would be at LEAST as comfortable at the other two, and hopefully even more so. But they're just not!! Even with the small tips I used, the actual part that sits in my ear, feels much more intrusive than the E500 and UM2.
Oh, that's really really not what I wanted to hear. This is the only thing that's been holding me back from upgrading to the W3. The UM2 body already fills my concha completely so naturally I'm worried that any increase in size might cause discomfort
post #30 of 88
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Originally Posted by RAQemUP View Post
Of course everyone's ears are different. Someone's minuscule difference is another's ear audio nirvana.
Exactly. Very sage comment.
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