Nice posts guys......
The interesting thing about placebo effect is that no one denies that it exists any longer.
But unfortunately, it seems like it's going to be a long time before the snake oilers run out subjects.
I don't know why that should be?
The subjects have access to the same tests we do. They have access to the same freely available scientific information that we do. Even statements from people at the top of their field, like KG have no impact on them. The 'placebo afflicted' invariably cling steadfastly to their unverifiable beliefs like the members of a cult.
When the man who designs many of the amps we're listening to says something, you would think it should carry some weight. But noooo...... what does he know argues an oiler with something to sell?
On the other hand, when a snake oiler shills about some unverifiable, unreproducible expensive piece of something they want to sell you, wow, look out.......... the devoutly infected are on it with wallets in hand.....
And there's absolutely nothing we can say that will shake their beliefs,
because, once you are afflicted with a particular strain of the 'Snake Oil Disease', you resist any and all treatment regarding that strain.....
In fact, the whole point of the Sound Science forum is to confine the truth to one tiny controllable area. Any time, one of our little truths pops up in one of the other forums, bamm, it's corralled and dumped back here, (like the magazine thread). Wouldn't want the noobs, with their full wallets, finding out about this stuff.
Hey, does anyone agree with any of this?