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post #46 of 75
12/15/08 at 11:54am
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Originally Posted by zumaro View Post
By far the worst album of the 70's golden run is Diamond Dogs. Sounded bad then, sounds outright embarrassing now. Pinups doesn't amount to much either - enjoyable enough but who really cares? Actually that is probably my view of Young Americans as well come to think of it...
Yeah, much of that album is overwrought, but I wouldn't write it off completely, especially when compared with Bowie's recent stuff, which I just don't get at all. "Rebel Rebel," in particular, is definitely worth salvaging, and also that terrific obscurity "Candidate." Back in the '80s, a band called Dramarama did a nice cover of that song.
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post #47 of 75
12/15/08 at 11:58am
Ziggy! I've got all of his albums, and I know that I'm not supposed to like the one that is most famous, but it really is the most compelling from start to finish IMO.
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post #48 of 75
12/15/08 at 1:02pm
Hunky Dory is coming around the outside, heading for the stretch! Ziggy holding a commanding lead, but Hunky Dory and Low are bumping saddles, side by side... it's gonna be a close one! It's Hunky Dory, It's Low! Who place and who will show?
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post #49 of 75
12/15/08 at 1:04pm
by the way, it's hilarious that Labyrinth is included in this poll.
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post #50 of 75
12/15/08 at 2:24pm
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by the way, it's hilarious that Labyrinth is included in this poll.
…yeah, and not Station to Station, which I think might be doing a fair bit of business if it was namechecked. I'm just sayin'…
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post #51 of 75
12/16/08 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by zumaro View Post
By far the worst album of the 70's golden run is Diamond Dogs.
I beg to differ. Songs like 1984, Candidate and Big Brother are great. It's a concept album and tells a story. It may not be his strongest album from that period but it is still very good and I place it higher than Young Americans.
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post #52 of 75
12/16/08 at 9:00am
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by the way, it's hilarious that Labyrinth is included in this poll.
Yea, a friend gave me the movie because he knew I like Bowie but I gave it back to him.
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post #53 of 75
12/16/08 at 9:33am
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Originally Posted by milkweg View Post
Once my re-doing of MP3Gain is finished (sigh) on my mp3 collection I will find the song again and tell you which one it is. I'm not talking about the song itself but the guitar only. Definitely very similar. I have Shame, Shame, Shame in my collection.

Geez, I can't believe Let's Dance has 5 votes now and Diamond Dogs 0.
Update: ok, that James Brown song is called;
Hot (I Need To Be Loved, Loved, Loved) and was recorded in 1975. Fame was also recorded in 1975. Not sure which came first though but if you listen to both and compare the guitar lick they are both *very* similar.


Just checked it out and apparently some are claiming Brown "borrowed" it from Bowie and not the other way around so I was wrong about my initial claim.
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post #54 of 75
12/16/08 at 12:26pm
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Originally Posted by milkweg View Post
Update: ok, that James Brown song is called;
Hot (I Need To Be Loved, Loved, Loved) and was recorded in 1975. Fame was also recorded in 1975. Not sure which came first though but if you listen to both and compare the guitar lick they are both *very* similar.


Just checked it out and apparently some are claiming Brown "borrowed" it from Bowie and not the other way around so I was wrong about my initial claim.
The chances of James Brown borrowing anything from Bowie at that point are slim but not impossible, but it's much more feasible that Carlos Alomar, Bowie's guitarist, heard James Brown's band workshopping the piece live (or jammed with them?) and appropriated a lick/hook from it. Musicians borrow from each other all the time; no shame in it. It's how they develop and grow. Before the hip-hop era made everybody nuts about "ownership," the saying "emulation is the sincerest form of flattery" really held weight—just ask the guys in Aerosmith, who're pretty happy these days that some rappers from Hollis, Queens got a new generation of folks interested in "Walk This Way." As for "Fame," well, if you ask me Bowie/Alomar put much better use to the lick than Brown did (I just listened to "Hot"; had totally forgotten about that tune), so who borrowed from who is almost irrelevant.
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post #55 of 75
12/16/08 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by tru blu View Post
The chances of James Brown borrowing anything from Bowie at that point are slim but not impossible, but it's much more feasible that Carlos Alomar, Bowie's guitarist, heard James Brown's band workshopping the piece live (or jammed with them?) and appropriated a lick/hook from it. Musicians borrow from each other all the time; no shame in it. It's how they develop and grow. Before the hip-hop era made everybody nuts about "ownership," the saying "emulation is the sincerest form of flattery" really held weight—just ask the guys in Aerosmith, who're pretty happy these days that some rappers from Hollis, Queens got a new generation of folks interested in "Walk This Way." As for "Fame," well, if you ask me Bowie/Alomar put much better use to the lick than Brown did (I just listened to "Hot"; had totally forgotten about that tune), so who borrowed from who is almost irrelevant.


The chances of James Brown borrowing anything from Bowie at that point are slim but not impossible, but it's much more feasible that Carlos Alomar, Bowie's guitarist, heard James Brown's band workshopping the piece live (or jammed with them?) and appropriated a lick/hook from it. Musicians borrow from each other all the time; no shame in it. It's how they develop and grow. Before the hip-hop era made everybody nuts about "ownership," the saying "emulation is the sincerest form of flattery" really held weight—just ask the guys in Aerosmith, who're pretty happy these days that some rappers from Hollis, Queens got a new generation of folks interested in "Walk This Way." As for "Fame," well, if you ask me Bowie/Alomar put much better use to the lick than Brown did (I just listened to "Hot"; had totally forgotten about that tune), so who borrowed from who is almost irrelevant.

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post #56 of 75
12/16/08 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by VicAjax View Post
The chances of James Brown borrowing anything from Bowie at that point are slim but not impossible, but it's much more feasible that Carlos Alomar, Bowie's guitarist, heard James Brown's band workshopping the piece live (or jammed with them?) and appropriated a lick/hook from it. Musicians borrow from each other all the time; no shame in it. It's how they develop and grow. Before the hip-hop era made everybody nuts about "ownership," the saying "emulation is the sincerest form of flattery" really held weight—just ask the guys in Aerosmith, who're pretty happy these days that some rappers from Hollis, Queens got a new generation of folks interested in "Walk This Way." As for "Fame," well, if you ask me Bowie/Alomar put much better use to the lick than Brown did (I just listened to "Hot"; had totally forgotten about that tune), so who borrowed from who is almost irrelevant.

Geez, anybody can sample an entire post. If you're gonna do that, at least loop part of it and maybe slide a new drum track under it.
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post #57 of 75
12/16/08 at 6:06pm
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Originally Posted by DrBenway View Post
Geez, anybody can sample an entire post. If you're gonna do that, at least loop part of it and maybe slide a new drum track under it.
if you had read the post in its original, uncompressed form, you would have seen that in addition to my signature tonguey emoticon at the end, I added a subtle yet significant flourish to the original winky emoticon, by putting a space between it and the full stop.

perhaps you should upgrade your source?
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post #58 of 75
12/16/08 at 9:18pm
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Originally Posted by VicAjax View Post
if you had read the post in its original, uncompressed form, you would have seen that in addition to my signature tonguey emoticon at the end, I added a subtle yet significant flourish to the original winky emoticon, by putting a space between it and the full stop.

perhaps you should upgrade your source?
Mmmm...you may be right. Obviously I'm not resolving all of the relevant details. Maybe I need to move up to a higher readrate?


Oh man. If this gets any more conceptual, my head may explode.
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post #59 of 75
12/16/08 at 10:32pm
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Mmmm...you may be right. Obviously I'm not resolving all of the relevant details. Maybe I need to move up to a higher readrate?


Oh man. If this gets any more conceptual, my head may explode.
what business do you have posting in this thread, anyway?

shouldn't you be scrutinizing the DVD-A stereo remaster of Pet Sounds for conceptual continuity?
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post #60 of 75
12/16/08 at 11:23pm
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what business do you have posting in this thread, anyway?

shouldn't you be scrutinizing the DVD-A stereo remaster of Pet Sounds for conceptual continuity?
Yes. And here I was thinking that I had seen every episode of The Prisoner. I am clearly being toyed with.
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