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post #751 of 2105
I just blasted 300€ away for these big boys and I cant seem to realise yet that I really did pay that much for earphones. Thats like 300 bottles of beer here in Finland and for us Finns thats alot!

I used to have etymotics er6 phones, but they got lost somewhere along the way and now I decided that I needed another pair of in-ear phones.

After some extensive reading the westone 3:s where my choise for getting the audio bliss I was looking for and I decided to stop reading before I regret the choise I made.

Only thing im wondering is that how well will these be integrated into an elacin earplug so I dont have to battle with fitting them to my wierdly formed ears. A friend of mine took his etymotic er 4p:s to an hearing specialist who took the mold from his inner ear and send it with the er4p:s to the factory and they came back as one elacin earplug made specially for him with the etymotic phones integrated to the earplug. So a grea fit with a great seal.

Anyone done it with these? How did it work? Is the plug sticking alot out of your ear and looking funny? Pictures maybe?

Thx for the help in advance o oracles of the internet!
post #752 of 2105
I just received my UM56's (custom molds) for mine yesterday. I thought it would be a good idea. Unfortunately, even though they are comfortable, the W3's sound bad with them. I don't know how or why that is, but compared to the foam tips I was using, it was like another headset completely. Very plasticy sounding, highs rolled off, bass in the background, just sound all wrong. As soon as I put the foams back on they sounded wonderful again... It was a complete waste of money for me, but others have had different results...

The only thing I can think of is that these aren't designed to have the tube go that far into the ear...
post #753 of 2105
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Originally Posted by Sideman7 View Post
I just received my UM56's (custom molds) for mine yesterday. I thought it would be a good idea. Unfortunately, even though they are comfortable, the W3's sound bad with them. I don't know how or why that is, but compared to the foam tips I was using, it was like another headset completely. Very plasticy sounding, highs rolled off, bass in the background, just sound all wrong. As soon as I put the foams back on they sounded wonderful again... It was a complete waste of money for me, but others have had different results...
Exactly the same for me. The W3 sounds great with Complys but rubbish with the UM56. It was the same with the UM2 as well.
post #754 of 2105
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Originally Posted by Jim Barry View Post
Exactly the same for me. The W3 sounds great with Complys but rubbish with the UM56. It was the same with the UM2 as well.
OK, so I'm glad it's not just me... I am planning on giving Westone a call on Monday regarding this, but what is the point of offering these if the end result is that they make the earphones sound like garbage?!?!? I don't care how well they fit if I don't want to use them anymore! Ugh...
post #755 of 2105
was your made from silicone or vinyl?
post #756 of 2105
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Originally Posted by hockeyb213 View Post
was your made from silicone or vinyl?
I am under the impression they are silicone, "oto-blast" as someone from Westone told me on the phone (they said this was the only option and I specifically called to ask about materials). They are pretty rubbery, but the package says, "PVC Pair, style 56, Formula 2 clear", and their website lists these as vinyl (which is confusing to say the least)... I still think they are silicone though, because I have an older pair of musicians plugs from them, and they are a much harder material which I believe is vinyl.
post #757 of 2105
Thread Starter 
Weird, the um-56 are the clearest most balanced and detailed tips I have tried with the W3, and beats the Complys for my ears. They were also very good with my Klipsch Image X10.
post #758 of 2105
has anyone tried Ety Foam on their W3's. I use them, really great!
post #759 of 2105
Has anyone ordered the UM-56 in europe, and if u have where did u order them? im just wondering do I have to send the molds to the otherside of the atlantic to get the custom molds.
post #760 of 2105
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Originally Posted by Morokolli View Post
Has anyone ordered the UM-56 in europe, and if u have where did u order them? im just wondering do I have to send the molds to the otherside of the atlantic to get the custom molds.
I got mine from Variphone Benelux. I've heard of people doing it though pjbox.co.uk though I don't see the UM56 mentioned on their website.
post #761 of 2105
Rawr. My tinnitus is still here. But now I can hear closed hi hats again. LOL. Music therapy for tinnitus does help. I'm hearing more detail than I did before.
post #762 of 2105
I tried the Ety grey foams from my old IM716's, but they're a little too large to be really comfortable for day to day use.. for exercising though.. perfect - there's no way they'd fall out of my ears

Oh and they sound pretty good too
post #763 of 2105
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Originally Posted by Sideman7 View Post
I am under the impression they are silicone, "oto-blast" as someone from Westone told me on the phone (they said this was the only option and I specifically called to ask about materials). They are pretty rubbery, but the package says, "PVC Pair, style 56, Formula 2 clear", and their website lists these as vinyl (which is confusing to say the least)... I still think they are silicone though, because I have an older pair of musicians plugs from them, and they are a much harder material which I believe is vinyl.

PVC is the vinyl, not silicone (AKA OtoBlast).
post #764 of 2105
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Originally Posted by Sideman7 View Post
I just received my UM56's (custom molds) for mine yesterday. I thought it would be a good idea. Unfortunately, even though they are comfortable, the W3's sound bad with them. I don't know how or why that is, but compared to the foam tips I was using, it was like another headset completely. Very plasticy sounding, highs rolled off, bass in the background, just sound all wrong. As soon as I put the foams back on they sounded wonderful again... It was a complete waste of money for me, but others have had different results...

The only thing I can think of is that these aren't designed to have the tube go that far into the ear...
How is the seal? I just want to make sure they are fitting correctly. When they go in, the "outside world" should almost disappear.
The bass should be very tight and the mids should come out more with a custom tip over the Comply tips.
post #765 of 2105
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Originally Posted by p0wderh0und23 View Post
How is the seal? I just want to make sure they are fitting correctly. When they go in, the "outside world" should almost disappear.
The bass should be very tight and the mids should come out more with a custom tip over the Comply tips.
Thanks for your reply! I am about to call you guys to get this sorted out. The molds by themselves seal quite well (although I can work them out of my ears by wiggling them. However, when I add the earpieces, there is a definite issue with the right one. The hole is at such a poor angle on that one, that the earpiece can't sit flush in my ears, it pulls the mold out of my ear (breaking the seal) and sounds like it may even be blocking the end of the nozzle. Oh, and if the seal on the foam tips is a "10" I would say these are an "8".

Also, why was I told on the phone that there is only one material for these when in fact there are two (and I didn't get what I was told I would)?

Hopefully we can get this straightened out on the phone. Thanks for your assistance.
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