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post #466 of 2102
lol zephyrsapphire lollllllllllllllllllll, and you were looking so forward to them as well

fwiw I didn't like the W3s either, I heard zephyrsapphire's for a few minutes with different tracks through my portable rig, they didn't seem to have the incoherent sound that I'd previously heard from the other multi driver iems (TF.10s and SE530s), which I'm willing to bet has something to do with having individual drivers for treble, midrange and bass. However the bass on these things reminded me of the D2000's bass which I absolutely hate, hollow and woolly are two words that come to mind. Heck I'd even call these D2000s in an IEM.

I guess if you have the Etys it's really hard to like any other iem (well for me anyway), as imo they make almost everything sound like crap once you've been listening to them for a while (no offense to anyone, it even makes my home rig sound like crap when I get back from uni , and no I'm not an ety fan boy if anyone is interested ).
post #467 of 2102
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
It seems the majority of owners are still blown away by how amazing these are, but that a fair number (although in the minority) hear sibilance or lack of detail or lack of body (calling them thin), and it makes me wonder if there is something wrong with their W3 or their ears. I can see how some people will say the W3 don't suit their tastes, but to hear sibilance everywhere or to be unable to discern any micro-details that so clearly are right there in front of me, or to say they sound THIN is simply baffling to me. I wish I could get to the bottom of it.

Unfortunately I do still hear them as a little thin. Bass quantity falls short of the IE8 and Images I had. And well short of my Atrios. Which has made me wonder if like you say perhaps I have a defective pair. I think I'm going to request a replacement set just to be sure... thankfully I've dealt with a very trusted dealer- Earphonesolutions. Everything else above the bass is truly staggering though.
post #468 of 2102
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Which has made me wonder if like you say perhaps I have a defective pair.
That's a stretch. I don't know what I'd rather hear: That your $400 earphones were defective or that they're supposed to sound that way .
post #469 of 2102
Zeph, I am worried if you're into detail, that I might experience what you have.

I love my detail in earphone. Well, today I am going to try out the new Klipsch X10s I got last week, although from first try, they are very bass heavy!
post #470 of 2102
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Zeph, I am worried if you're into detail, that I might experience what you have.
You shouldn't worry, they are able to render as much details as my Edition 9.
post #471 of 2102
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Unfortunately I do still hear them as a little thin. Bass quantity falls short of the IE8 and Images I had. And well short of my Atrios. Which has made me wonder if like you say perhaps I have a defective pair. I think I'm going to request a replacement set just to be sure... thankfully I've dealt with a very trusted dealer- Earphonesolutions. Everything else above the bass is truly staggering though.
The most minuscule debris in the filter will cause the earphones to under perform in a huge way. I have the Atrios and there is just no comparison. The W3 is on an entire different league on all frequency ranges. It's like W3 10, Atrios 4.

I just A/B'd the W3 with the IE8 here as well and for me there is a big difference in favor of the 3. The bass on the 3 is nothing other than outstanding. If experienced head-fiers such as HA, Vorlon1, SierraHotel01 and others, which have plenty of other models to use as a reference, are not noticing the problems you are, I say there could very well be a problem with your W3 and that is nothing out of the ordinary. Being in this business for 13 years I have seen time and time again some products fail out of the box or a few days later and Westone happens to be one of the lowest return rate but there is a percentile that will fail in every thing that is made by any company. I think we all know that. Cables, drivers, casing, etc. nothing is perfect and just because something cost $400 it doesn't mean they can't fail. You can pay $100k for an AMG convertible and have rain fall inside the car (my neighbor within 3 months). So it's not a stretch to think you could have a defective product. Surprising would be to have 1 defective out of 2,000. I'd expect more based on hard statistics we collect from all manufacturers.

Send us an email and we will replace it right away -- if we have them in stock -- or else we will send you over to Westone for a prompt replacement.

Let me know, but please send the email to info@earphonesolutions.com

Thank you!
post #472 of 2102
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Originally Posted by qusp View Post
for sure; I will be posting impressions using iphone 3G (HP out as well as line out), DIYMOD 5.5g, and my RME pro audio interface; a pico and mini^3 and using a large variety of interconnects and capped docks with blackgate and VCAP caps. also comparing them directly to the SE530 with both the stock cable and the new jena with 75k impedance adapter.Of course, I will have to make an impedance adapter with the same resistors to make it a level playing field; as the W3 have even lower impedance than the shures. I just hope zeph includes some long comply because by the sounds of it ill need them, I have plenty of short here and quite a few olives, but not sure if i'll get a deep enough seal with the short comply.

I will be really listening for sibilance issues with a few test tracks including some off Seventh Tree by Goldfrapp (a fantastic album that I am listening to right now and know very well along with some hybrid, groove armada and the portishead live albulm (for soundstage and instrument seperation and some sibilance). some rockbox EQ may be used to try and tame it along with the choice of cable;. all in all it should be a pretty thorough review if things go to plan. we'll see if my writing is up to the task. I will post initial impressions but then want to give it at least a few days before further comment.
Yeah I've throwing in a new set of long comply tips and a pair of medium black olives since I've used the long comply tips from the box and have amputated the triflanges. Lol.
post #473 of 2102
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Originally Posted by Caution View Post
lol zephyrsapphire lollllllllllllllllllll, and you were looking so forward to them as well

fwiw I didn't like the W3s either, I heard zephyrsapphire's for a few minutes with different tracks through my portable rig, they didn't seem to have the incoherent sound that I'd previously heard from the other multi driver iems (TF.10s and SE530s), which I'm willing to bet has something to do with having individual drivers for treble, midrange and bass. However the bass on these things reminded me of the D2000's bass which I absolutely hate, hollow and woolly are two words that come to mind. Heck I'd even call these D2000s in an IEM.

I guess if you have the Etys it's really hard to like any other iem (well for me anyway), as imo they make almost everything sound like crap once you've been listening to them for a while (no offense to anyone, it even makes my home rig sound like crap when I get back from uni , and no I'm not an ety fan boy if anyone is interested ).
Lol. I miss my detail. I ended up going to the ER4S everytime I was listening to Japanese music. Which is almost most of the time. The only time I switched the the Westone 3's if it was English music or badly recorded music. The ER4S is in a totally different league in terms of detail. Lol. And yeah. Definitely D2000 bass, which I like of course. Lol.

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Originally Posted by FeedMeTrance View Post
Zeph, I am worried if you're into detail, that I might experience what you have.

I love my detail in earphone. Well, today I am going to try out the new Klipsch X10s I got last week, although from first try, they are very bass heavy!
Well can't help you there. You gotta try to find out. Lol.
post #474 of 2102

Can you handle the truth?

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post #475 of 2102
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Unfortunately I do still hear them as a little thin. Bass quantity falls short of the IE8 and Images I had. And well short of my Atrios. Which has made me wonder if like you say perhaps I have a defective pair. I think I'm going to request a replacement set just to be sure... thankfully I've dealt with a very trusted dealer- Earphonesolutions. Everything else above the bass is truly staggering though.
My Westone 3 would simply pound the X10 into the ground, and the X10 had better bass than the Triple.fi or SE530.
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post #478 of 2102
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I am not in any way trying to say you're "wrong," but this sounds absolutely bass-ackwards to me personally after having used the SE530 exclusively practically every day for several months. Like, I probably wouldn't even be thinking about buying the Westone 3 if the SE530 sounded like that to me.

But I'm probably just messed up .
Moseboy,

As I pointed out this is an A/B/C/D comparison. I always enjoyed my SE530 and still do. This is an exercise. A tiring one I must say.

You can't say a Lamborghini sucks, but you can say that after driving the Ferrari Enzo you felt more like this or more like that.

For a guy that owns a Honda mini-van like myself, it doesn't mean squat.

You are trying to guess something that you are not in a position of. You either need to bite the bullet and get one or just forget about it. The SE530 is a fine earphone anyways.

Comparisons are just that. The very opposite of "absolute". Everything is in relation to the other reference

You are very well served with the SE530, so relax and enjoy them
post #479 of 2102
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Originally Posted by moseboy View Post
I am not in any way trying to say you're "wrong," but this sounds absolutely bass-ackwards to me personally after having used the SE530 exclusively practically every day for several months. Like, I probably wouldn't even be thinking about buying the Westone 3 if the SE530 sounded like that to me.

But I'm probably just messed up .

if you buy it please let me know your thoughts..
and see my w3 vs shure thread
post #480 of 2102
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if you buy it please let me know your thoughts..
and see my w3 vs shure thread
I've already posted there, and I'll let you know what I think if I do get it.
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