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post #406 of 2095
12/6/08 at 2:25pm
earphone solutions will have them all except the custom tips. I would think. they def have the shure olives and the comply
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post #407 of 2095
12/6/08 at 2:55pm
As far as the sibilance issue, I have even more reason to worry because I had the Westone UM2, and sent them back for this reason. I just can't stand sibilance.
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post #408 of 2095
12/6/08 at 4:04pm
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By the way, what's the story with the delayed UK shipments? I was really looking forward to getting mine early next week, then I find out that the date has been put back to 15 December
Never mind, just got word from Roy at PJBOX that their shipment has arrived in the UK and I should have my W3 by Wednesday
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post #409 of 2095
12/6/08 at 4:18pm
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Never mind, just got word from Roy at PJBOX that their shipment has arrived in the UK and I should have my W3 by Wednesday
Just put my order in with them - hopefully I'll be included in their first batch of stock.
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post #410 of 2095
12/6/08 at 6:35pm
What is this sibilance people are complaining about?
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post #411 of 2095
12/6/08 at 6:39pm
Read this to learn more.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/5097007-post871.html
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post #412 of 2095
12/6/08 at 6:48pm
Yeah just read that.

Personally I find the Westone 3's lacking in the right amount of sibilance if sibilance is whatever described in that post.

The "s, sh, ch, z, j" are under-emphasized making the the words sound weird. Sometimes I can barely hear those sounds, making the word sound like a totally different word ocassionaly. IMHO the only way to properly measure sibilance is by listening to Japanese music where ALL 5 of those sounds are important in the Japanese pronounciation. Or any other language which emphasizes on all 5. English uses the "s" sound more often that the other sounds. Looking at what I'm typing, there's only two "sh" and two "j" in the whole post. "s" however... Lol.
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post #413 of 2095
12/6/08 at 7:08pm
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Personally I find the Westone 3's lacking in the right amount of sibilance if sibilance is whatever described in that post.

The [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]"s, sh, ch, z, j" are under-emphasized making the the words sound weird. Sometimes I can barely hear those sounds, making the word sound like a totally different word ocassionaly.
HAhaha.... You're kidding, right? These just aren't meant to be for me. Lol....
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post #414 of 2095
12/6/08 at 7:15pm
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HAhaha.... You're kidding, right? These just aren't meant to be for me. Lol....
No I'm not kidding, sadly. I listen to Japanese music a hell lot more English music and I dislike how "zuto" ("always" in Japanese) occasionally sounds like "juto" or "suto", which doesn't mean "zuto" at all.

The most common sibilance problem with the Westone 3's is sometimes, if not most of the time "s" sounds like "z" and vice versa. But of course, for Japanese music only.
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post #415 of 2095
12/6/08 at 7:19pm
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No I'm not kidding, sadly. I listen to Japanese music a hell lot more English music and I dislike how "zuto" ("always" in Japanese) occasionally sounds like "juto" or "suto", which doesn't mean "zuto" at all.

The most common sibilance problem with the Westone 3's is sometimes, if not most of the time "s" sounds like "z" and vice versa. But of course, for Japanese music only.
....Nope, sounds just fine on my SE530: Just tested it (I have some Japanese music). Which tips are you using?
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post #416 of 2095
12/6/08 at 7:24pm
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....Nope, sounds just fine on my SE530: Just tested it (I have some Japanese music). Which tips are you using?
Hmm maybe I should get some SE530's for my Japanese music then . I'm using comply tips, standard length, standard size, not the short ones. They're the only tips which fit my ears to get a good seal. Everything else is just too short.
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post #417 of 2095
12/6/08 at 7:41pm
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Hmm maybe I should get some SE530's for my Japanese music then . I'm using comply tips, standard length, standard size, not the short ones. They're the only tips which fit my ears to get a good seal. Everything else is just too short.
Oooo, see, that's where I'd give the Westone 3 a chance.... I don't see what's so amazing about the Comply tips. When I still had my UM2, the Comply tips always made my music sound weird. Like... it would sound like the music was distant but still in my face. Like it would be right there, but a veil would keep me from hearing what I wanted to. The Shure olive tips that I bought with my UM2 sounded much better, but unfortunately not even they could get rid of the sibilance that led me to sending them back.... And now today I use them with my SE530 .
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post #418 of 2095
12/6/08 at 7:45pm
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Oooo, see, that's where I'd give the Westone 3 a chance.... I don't see what's so amazing about the Comply tips. When I still had my UM2, the Comply tips always made my music sound weird. Like... it would sound like the music was distant but still in my face. Like it would be right there, but a veil would keep me from hearing what I wanted to. The Shure olive tips that I bought with my UM2 sounded much better, but unfortunately not even they could get rid of the sibilance that led me to sending them back.... And now today I use them with my SE530 .
Comply tips are the most comfortable tips out there. That's about it. Lol. The black foam (olive) tips made the Westone 3's have more detail and some other stuff I said in a post a page or two back (I think). But yeah. Fit issues.
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post #419 of 2095
12/6/08 at 8:13pm
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Comply tips are the most comfortable tips out there. That's about it. Lol. The black foam (olive) tips made the Westone 3's have more detail and some other stuff I said in a post a page or two back (I think). But yeah. Fit issues.
That's very unfortunate.... So you have this anti-sibilance (maybe?) issue. What's your take on the Westone 3 as a whole?
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post #420 of 2095
12/6/08 at 8:18pm
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That's very unfortunate.... So you have this anti-sibilance (maybe?) issue. What's your take on the Westone 3 as a whole?
It seems to me that until you make your final decision, you're going to drive yourself to the brink of insanity.
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