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post #31 of 35
12/10/08 at 7:31pm
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Originally Posted by hayste View Post
my thoughts exactly... Pet Sounds is just incredibly moving, I can't really say that about much of The Beatles' stuff, except perhaps the medley on side 2 of Abbey Road.
This is an oft-expressed idea in this thread, and others, but I must confess to being mystified by this idea.

"Girl"
"I've Just Seen A Face"
"I Want You (She's So Heavy)"
"Norwegian Wood"
"Hey Jude"
"She's Leaving Home"
"This Boy"
"You've Really Got a Hold on Me" (Yes, I know, it's a Miracles cover).
"While My Guitar Gently Weeps"
"Let It Be"

I could go on all day, but I hope you get my point even if I don't list any other of the many obvious choices. These are not emotional songs?

I've been pleasantly surprised to read praise of Pet Sounds that impelled me to re-think the album, and to some extent, the group. This has been a very interesting thread. But the idea that the Beatles were the cold counterparts to the more emotional Beach Boys is something I simply can't accept.
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post #32 of 35
12/10/08 at 8:28pm
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Originally Posted by DrBenway View Post
This is an oft-expressed idea in this thread, and others, but I must confess to being mystified by this idea.

"Girl"
"I've Just Seen A Face"
"I Want You (She's So Heavy)"
"Norwegian Wood"
"Hey Jude"
"She's Leaving Home"
"This Boy"
"You've Really Got a Hold on Me" (Yes, I know, it's a Miracles cover).
"While My Guitar Gently Weeps"
"Let It Be"

I could go on all day, but I hope you get my point even if I don't list any other of the many obvious choices. These are not emotional songs?

I've been pleasantly surprised to read praise of Pet Sounds that impelled me to re-think the album, and to some extent, the group. This has been a very interesting thread. But the idea that the Beatles were the cold counterparts to the more emotional Beach Boys is something I simply can't accept.
i understand your taking issue with this, and i agree that The Beatles have many songs that make an emotional connection. In fact, in terms of songs, I would say The Beatles have a broader, if not deeper, emotional repertoire than the Beach Boys.

but that depth is where the Beach Boys win out, especially on Pet Sounds. i think the point many posters are making is that Pet Sounds as a "concept album" integrates a directly emotional and intensely personal context to the album's concept. in fact, that essentially is the concept.

that is, on top of the musical innovation, deft execution and thematic unity there is emotional intensity that arguably only lets up once, with "Sloop John B," which is a track that Capitol Records insisted the group include on the album.

Sgt. Pepper's, on the other hand, while certainly marks an evolutionary advance and is undoubtedly a marvelous album, doesn't hold up as a single artistic whole as well as Pet Sounds, nor is it as revolutionary as the latter.

personally, i am swept away both musically and emotionally by Pet Sounds, while Sgt. Peppers is a great album that serves as a bridge from Revolver to Magical Mystery Tour and the last few Beatles albums.
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post #33 of 35
12/10/08 at 8:37pm
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Originally Posted by VicAjax View Post
Sgt. Pepper's, on the other hand, while certainly marks an evolutionary advance and is undoubtedly a marvelous album, doesn't hold up as a single artistic whole as well as Pet Sounds, nor is it as revolutionary as the latter.
To be honest with you, I wouln't have entertained this idea before participating in this thread. But the articulate passion expressed here pretty much dooms me (in a good way) to some quality time with Pet Sounds.

So if I want to compare Sgt. Pepper with Pet Sounds can someone recommend a CD release that would be appropriate? My copy of Sgt Pepper is on vinyl, so I would be looking for a version of Pet Sounds that is as un-"modernized" as possible. Or is that the right approach?
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post #34 of 35
12/10/08 at 8:44pm
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Originally Posted by DrBenway View Post
To be honest with you, I wouln't have entertained this idea before participating in this thread. But the articulate passion expressed here pretty much dooms me (in a good way) to some quality time with Pet Sounds.

So if I want to compare Sgt. Pepper with Pet Sounds can someone recommend a CD release that would be appropriate? My copy of Sgt Pepper is on vinyl, so I would be looking for a version of Pet Sounds that is as un-"modernized" as possible. Or is that the right approach?
IMHO (and of course others may disagree), don't let the release cloud the music in a comparison like this... superior sonics might cloud your judgment.

seriously though, purists will tell you that the original mono mix of Pet Sounds is the way to go, although i'm quite fond of the remastered stereo version as well. the DVD-A release sounds quite nice.
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post #35 of 35
12/11/08 at 7:11am
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Originally Posted by VicAjax View Post
seriously though, purists will tell you that the original mono mix of Pet Sounds is the way to go, although i'm quite fond of the remastered stereo version as well. the DVD-A release sounds quite nice.

I also prefer the stereo mix of pet sounds. Even though Steve Hoffman does some beautiful things with his mono mix, it's very hard to beat a stereo recording for breathing life into a record.
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