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post #31 of 45
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I think I was one of the only people who had a good experience with the canal mode. But from what I read on the forums, everyone hates them in canal mode and just uses them in earbud mode. I actually never use them in canal mode since I have the Klipsch X10 which are just too comfortable and only use the Yuin OK1s for when I don't want isolation nowadays.
I guess it pretty much depends on the shape of the person ears; the design might be good for some people, and bad for others. I am from the second group
How was the isolation when you were able to use them in canal mode?

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post #32 of 45
Isolation? Not much of it really. With them in I can hear people talking to me just not really understand what they are saying to me half the time when music is off. With the Klipsch X10s I can't hear people right beside me even with music off. I was mainly commenting on that they felt comfortable in my ear canal and did not have any sound issues or have them pop out on me during activity.
post #33 of 45
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Any update Kaushama?
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Yes coming up! I have checked TF10s with various eartip mods. Three methods in fact. I will post my impressions soon!
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Comparison Yuin OK1 and TF10

Comparison Yuin OK1 and TF10
Equipment used; Sony S639F, Sansa Fuze, SqueezeBox→Stella DA00→GS1. Two portable players were linked with a Xin Supermini (Latest version)
All music files were in 320 KBPS MP3s or FLAC format. Almost all genres were auditioned including classical, pop, R&B, newage and Jazz.
This is essentially an unfair comparison as two phones have entirely different designs and technology.
I had a PK1 before I upgraded to OK1. I was drawn to OK1 mainly for its dual functionality as both earbuds and a canalphone. My experience with OK1 as a canalphone is disappointing. I tried all the possible methods to get a proper seal and good SQ with OK1 as a canalphone. It cannot be used as a canalphone. It lets itself down downgrading SQ in its weak bid to isolate with those funny tubes. But as an earbud it is a significant upgrade from PK1.
OK1:
I only used them as earbuds for comparison. Being earbuds they are comfortable to wear. As they have a bit larger diameter than PK1, I couldn’t use the rubber earpads provided. With long listening sessions they become uncomfortable. I am using only foam earpads with them. I like the cable better than the PK1’s cable. The cable is more rubbery and flexible. PK1 cable used to get hardened with time and gave more microphonics than OK1 cable.
They are very neutral. The striking attribute is their beautiful mids. Female sounds and Piano sounds are represented accurately and with correct timbre and speed. Mids are not upfront and harsh. Beautiful! Highs are very fast and no sibilance at all. Very detailed too! OK1 really does well during the complex passages of music. I could appreciate different layers and nuances, even when they were stretched to the limits with complex tracks. Very analytical sound but can be little dry and dark. Now then Bass! Being an earbud, it does not give head shaking deep bass. I played some tracks with lot of fast sub-bass. OK1 do not give quantity in bass. It can play sub-bass. If I press the bud against my ear to give a good seal I can hear it going really low. But as a simple earbud it doesn’t give upfront bass response. Bass is bit over shadowed by sweet mids. But the bass is very tight and fast. Detailed too. The bass has more quality than quantity. It is really a neutral set of phones. The sound-stage is massive. Both in depth and width! No surprise considering its open design! In summary OK1 is a neutral sounding bud suited best for analytical kind of listening. It lacks bit of fun factor while being very neutral and analytical. It does not give any isolation at all. I am keeping them for listening at home. I am using them when I cycle too. I do not need isolation then.
TF10:
I was able to get a very good seal with these. I settled for large silicon eartips. To improve the isolation I tried several mods too. I have discussed them here. I have settled for Shure olive + Silicon mod as it gives me best combination of comfort and isolation. Gosh! These IEMs look odd! I hate the fact they stick out of my ears. Bit scary!!! I do not want to wear them when mischievous kids are around! LOL!!! But kind of cool looking too. I both hate and love the looks!!
TF10s are not at all neutral. They are fun type of IEMs. They isolate very well so that I can commute in trains without any problem. I am wearing them now as I type and I can’t hear any outside noise including the music of my home rig. I am one of those blessed ones, who can get a wonderful seal. Because of the tight seal I can really appreciate the BASS. It goes really down to sub-bass. It really gives more bass than OK1. Pretty detailed too. But not as fast and tight as OK1! I would say more quantity than quality. But it does very well with more modern kind of music. It really did well with POP, NEWAGE and JAZZ. The trebles go really high and can be little harsh sometimes with some heavy tracks. Treble is very detailed too. Now the mids! They are little laid back. Not upfront at all. I sometimes think that female and piano sounds are little laid back than my taste and not as accurately represented as OK1. TF10 has slight V shape to its Frequency curve. It is very detailed and layered too. But little congested compared to OK1. Sound-stage is not as wide as that of OK1.
TF10 is better suited for fun type listening as it has very good fun factor and very lively. It isolate very well too. I think it is very wisely tuned for its primary purpose. Isolated listening in noisy environment! Who wants to listen to complex music passages with subtle nuances in such a setting? I find them giving me very good isolation and fun when I am travelling and in a noisy setup. I am keeping them as well till I find a better IEM. I will audition IE8 and W3 in future.
post #36 of 45
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Originally Posted by kaushama View Post
Comparison Yuin OK1 and TF10
Equipment used; Sony S639F, Sansa Fuze, SqueezeBox→Stella DA00→GS1. Two portable players were linked with a Xin Supermini (Latest version)
All music files were in 320 KBPS MP3s or FLAC format. Almost all genres were auditioned including classical, pop, R&B, newage and Jazz.

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TF10:
I was able to get a very good seal with these. I settled for large silicon eartips. To improve the isolation I tried several mods too. I have discussed them here. I have settled for Shure olive + Silicon mod as it gives me best combination of comfort and isolation. Gosh! These IEMs look odd! I hate the fact they stick out of my ears. Bit scary!!! I do not want to wear them when mischievous kids are around! LOL!!! But kind of cool looking too. I both hate and love the looks!!

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Nice report. You should consider the "flip flop" mod where you swap the TF10 cable to put the left earpiece on the right ear, and the right earpiece on the left - they tuck in much better and don't look like the bolts in Frankenstein's Monster's Neck.
post #37 of 45
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Nice report. You should consider the "flip flop" mod where you swap the TF10 cable to put the left earpiece on the right ear, and the right earpiece on the left - they tuck in much better and don't look like the bolts in Frankenstein's Monster's Neck.
Thanks I tried that and it stays better. But it doesn't allow me to push eartip more into canal. But still it gives me a perfect seal. The back off the TF10 sits against my ear bit firmly and long listening give me bit of discomfort. But I like the look better.
IE8 really draws my attention now with latest impressions. It seem to need bit of burn-in to get final SQ. Less Isolation seems to be the trade off. I wonder how it is compared to isolation of TF10. Anyone?
post #38 of 45
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Hmm... yes, the IE8's are reportedly very good. It's a shame that I can't use IEM's anymore
post #39 of 45
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OMG, I have been using the OK1's with trance/electronica (Paul Van Dyk and Armin Van Buuren), and oh my... it's such a great experience! Specially when using the D2's DAC
Everything seems so real... and soundstage sounds great!
It got me toe tappin... that doesn't happen often
post #40 of 45
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OMG, I have been using the OK1's with trance/electronica (Paul Van Dyk and Armin Van Buuren), and oh my... it's such a great experience! Specially when using the D2's DAC
Everything seems so real... and soundstage sounds great!
Hey! Don't make me regret selling you my D2 Viper...
post #41 of 45
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Hey! Don't make me regret selling you my D2 Viper...
Ha ha, don't be mean with me Larry
post #42 of 45
The TF10 has typical V shape frequency profile and if I listen to OK1 for long periods and return back I always think TF10 is quite laid back on mids. Not a very good option for acoustic and classical Genres. But It had quite a similar signature to HD650. I mean the frequency profile. It can not match the energy and speed of HD650.
I wish OK1 had better bass. Perhaps tad more sub-sonic bass and little more bass merging in to mids. It would have been ideal then.
But it responds well to EQ of my s639f. Unfortunately Sansa Fuze not a player which can be used with EQ.
post #43 of 45
Hello, Thanks for the review! The ok1 and the foamies are on the way now.
Greetings, Anouk,
post #44 of 45
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Hello, Thanks for the review! The ok1 and the foamies are on the way now.
Greetings, Anouk,
Hi Anouk, You are welcome I am glad that you liked it, and I hope you enjoy them. Thanks for your feedback.!
post #45 of 45
what you have to consider is it sounds loud to you using isolation and not having to play over background noise I have not done any testing but even blaring the iem that seals outside noise is prob not as bad as blaring a ipod bud
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