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What's with these Shure's?

post #1 of 41
Thread Starter 
Finally took the plunge and got myself a pair of Shure SE110's. Tried them against the UE Metro.fi 2's. And I have to say that they're O.K. but what's with Shure's bass, or I should say, why is Shure trying it's best to stamp out the bass.

I've heard rolled off highs, artificially enhanced bass, and of course I own a pair of Bose Triport OE’s, which brings its own criticism, but I never heard anything so artificially tampered with...nothing.

We all go through it. The track starts and you know that bass line is coming, but with these Shure's, the bass line is tampered and muted to a point beyond belief. The bass line just doesn't manifest itself.

I don't care what anyone says about my Tirport's, Shure are the new Master tamperer's of bass, and not in a good way!

At least I gave them a go. So my question of SE530 or Triple.fi has been answered... I think it's the triple .fi's!

even with that attack, if you're into non beat driven music (rock, pop, rap, dance) then the Shure's are acceptable, but muting the bass to that degree isn't!
post #2 of 41
i was playing with a pair the other day, are you sure u have them sealed right? the bass seemed fine on them, better then the pair of C751's ive got on just now.
post #3 of 41
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post
i was playing with a pair the other day, are you sure u have them sealed right? the bass seemed fine on them, better then the pair of C751's ive got on just now.
if anything, the seal is fine. The Shure's (for me) are a near perfect fit, bar the uncomfortable over-the-ear wire. I don't think the seal is the problem somehow! even holding them and forcing them in my ears, doesn't reveal any improvements in bass!

I also notice that they don't take high volumes very well either
post #4 of 41
What are you driving them with, what kind of files are you listening to, and are you saying the bass is too quiet/muted?

Dave
post #5 of 41
well the 110s are not the greatest ever which is why in most reviews they all recommend spend the tad more and get the 210's. however if you trying to use them as a way to estimate what the 530's are like then dont bass wise the 530's have 2 low end drivers in them and the bass out put on them is perfection
post #6 of 41
General consensus, myself included is that the 530s have the most clean bass of any IEM right now.

Thought I'd also add that I have the 110 and the 210 and they really arent comparable in any way shape or form, except the way you wear them.

Dave
post #7 of 41
Not sure that's true any longer, with the emergence of the Senn IE8. Check the thread.
post #8 of 41
Thread Starter 
i'm using lossless files and 328 kps. the fit is good, but with most music, the bass line just doesn't arrive.
post #9 of 41
I have the Shure SE110's and honestly while they don't have ALOT of bass, they sure do have it. I think it all depends on your source because I thought the same thing when I had my Zune, but once I got my Zen they sound beautiful. Also a Fiio really does help. Saying that it has no bass is pushing it because I think it has clean and punchy bass.
post #10 of 41
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Originally Posted by captian73 View Post
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I don't care what anyone says about my Tirport's, Shure are the new Master tamperer's of bass, and not in a good way!

At least I gave them a go. So my question of SE530 or Triple.fi has been answered... I think it's the triple .fi's!

even with that attack, if you're into non beat driven music (rock, pop, rap, dance) then the Shure's are acceptable, but muting the bass to that degree isn't!
mate!!! that one of the most ridiculous statements I think i've ever heard on here; even from someone who clearly hasn't tried either the SE530 OR triple.fi. To judge the top IEM from a company by their lowest end product is bordering on insane. You cant buy something 1/5th of the price with 1/3 of the drivers based on the reviews on the flagship product. i've never tried the 110 but I own the SE530 and used to own the triples. Both of these IEMs are very good, they just have different presentations but the 110 is right at the botom, dont you bother to read any specs on a product before you buy it??? single armature IEM's cant hope to be a full range driver, their design doesnt allow that, unlike some dynamic driver IEM's that can change their shape accordingly to put out different frequencies, armature drivers are tuned to a certain frequency range; but they are more accurate at portaying said frequency range than dynamic are. thats why they need 2-3 drivers to cover it all. with the right source the SE530 and triple.fi can put out serious bass; hell with a 2gb shuffle my SE530 puts out serious bass, the shures have better texture and quantity and the UE having better extension. get some education/experience; hell even just try one or both of them before making such a clueless statement. Shure havent 'muted' the bass why do you think they would do that?? do you think its a conspiracy to get you to spend more money on their more expensive products?? oh that right they dont have any bass either; I forgot. the driver just isn't capable of huge bass, accurate bass probably yes (as I said I haven't tried them) but not huge.
post #11 of 41
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Originally Posted by qusp View Post
mate!!! that one of the most ridiculous statements I think i've ever heard on here; even from someone who clearly hasn't tried either the SE530 OR triple.fi. To judge the top IEM from a company by their lowest end product is bordering on insane. You cant buy something 1/5th of the price with 1/3 of the drivers based on the reviews on the flagship product. i've never tried the 110 but I own the SE530 and used to own the triples. Both of these IEMs are very good, they just have different presentations but the 110 is right at the botom, dont you bother to read any specs on a product before you buy it??? single armature IEM's cant hope to be a full range driver, their design doesnt allow that, unlike some dynamic driver IEM's that can change their shape accordingly to put out different frequencies, armature drivers are tuned to a certain frequency range; but they are more accurate at portaying said frequency range than dynamic are. thats why they need 2-3 drivers to cover it all. with the right source the SE530 and triple.fi can put out serious bass; hell with a 2gb shuffle my SE530 puts out serious bass, the shures have better texture and quantity and the UE having better extension. get some education/experience; hell even just try one or both of them before making such a clueless statement. Shure havent 'muted' the bass why do you think they would do that?? do you think its a conspiracy to get you to spend more money on their more expensive products?? oh that right they dont have any bass either; I forgot. the driver just isn't capable of huge bass, accurate bass probably yes (as I said I haven't tried them) but not huge.
Stress release of the week.....
post #12 of 41
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Originally Posted by qusp View Post
mate!!! that one of the most ridiculous statements I think i've ever heard on here; even from someone who clearly hasn't tried either the SE530 OR triple.fi. To judge the top IEM from a company by their lowest end product is bordering on insane. You cant buy something 1/5th of the price with 1/3 of the drivers based on the reviews on the flagship product. i've never tried the 110 but I own the SE530 and used to own the triples. Both of these IEMs are very good, they just have different presentations but the 110 is right at the botom, dont you bother to read any specs on a product before you buy it??? single armature IEM's cant hope to be a full range driver, their design doesnt allow that, unlike some dynamic driver IEM's that can change their shape accordingly to put out different frequencies, armature drivers are tuned to a certain frequency range; but they are more accurate at portaying said frequency range than dynamic are. thats why they need 2-3 drivers to cover it all. with the right source the SE530 and triple.fi can put out serious bass; hell with a 2gb shuffle my SE530 puts out serious bass, the shures have better texture and quantity and the UE having better extension. get some education/experience; hell even just try one or both of them before making such a clueless statement. Shure havent 'muted' the bass why do you think they would do that?? do you think its a conspiracy to get you to spend more money on their more expensive products?? oh that right they dont have any bass either; I forgot. the driver just isn't capable of huge bass, accurate bass probably yes (as I said I haven't tried them) but not huge.
Flame much?
post #13 of 41
hehe yeah I feel much better now; just finished trying to get my email back online after it kept on asking for my password because it was rejected even though nothing has changed and it was online with that pass at the time. just now though after rebooting and logging in it gave the same message, but guess what happened when I enetered the same pass..... its online
it was legitimately very annoying though that clueless statement
post #14 of 41
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hehe yeah I feel much better now; just finished trying to get my email back online after it kept on asking for my password because it was rejected even though nothing has changed and it was online with that pass at the time. just now though after rebooting and logging in it gave the same message, but guess what happened when I enetered the same pass..... its online
it was legitimately very annoying though that clueless statement
That sure does sound frustrating. You read enough statements like that aswell and you can just go boom lol.
post #15 of 41
qusp is right tho, captian73 is a prime example of a person that hasnt got a clue. all you can do is ignore stupid statements like that which are complete gibberish
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