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On CD copying - and why you should.

post #1 of 10
7/7/03 at 5:14am
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Man, am I pissed.

I bought the Dixie Chicks "Little Ol' Cow Girl" Cd, used, in pristine condition for $7.99. On EBay it's going for $100.

I didn't make a copy.

Now I look at the bottom and see where I have put "dents" into it.

(ever have a CD drawer close on your CD and it wasnt positioned right?)

if you love a CD - make a copy.

then play just the copy.

I'm pissed and besides myself. stupid. stupid. stupid.
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post #2 of 10
7/7/03 at 5:22am
That sucks. I'm starting to experiment with FLAC for that reason. Curious if you are able to exact the audio? I know the CD was worth a lot, but curious how far in the dents are? I've had unplayable CD's in very bad shape and was able to occasionally still get a clean copy off it.
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post #3 of 10
7/7/03 at 5:37am
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I'm going to try making a copy at 1x onto a black CDR.

Nero, don't fail me now.
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post #4 of 10
7/7/03 at 6:35am
Are you using EAC, TAC, etc. to extract the tracks and then burn a copy? Yeah, the Memorex Black CDR's are suppose to last 100 years, right?
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post #5 of 10
7/7/03 at 7:35am
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Nero 5.90 will only let me record at 4x minimum.

time to retire the original. (or at least put it in the safe).

dang, I wish I had made a copy when it was prestine.

EAC? TAC?

All i want to do is make a copy. The best posssible copy that I can.

dang, I'm depressed. As far as I am concerned, any copy is inferior to the original.

remember when you didn't want to play vynil becuse each pass degraded the sound? that's the way I feel.

yeah, it'll last 100 years if you do not play it. ever. if you play it, get finger prints on it, damage the tracks, ... it doesn't last too long.
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post #6 of 10
7/7/03 at 8:17am
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Originally posted by wallijonn
Nero 5.90 will only let me record at 4x minimum.

time to retire the original. (or at least put it in the safe).

dang, I wish I had made a copy when it was prestine.

EAC? TAC?
EAC is a tool that is very good at reading the digital audio data directly from an audio-CD. Many other tools are supposedly worse and might introduce errors in the data thus resulting in a less than perfect copy. Using EAC and a good reader should however result in a copy as good as the original. I that case your worries about inferior copy are a thing of the analog past.
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/
BTW Recent versions of EAC should also be able to burn. So you only need this one tool.

Good luck
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post #7 of 10
7/7/03 at 8:27am
Here's a great tutorial for EAC. It takes a bit of effort to get it fully configured correctly, including offsets for your particular CD burner.

http://www.ping.be/satcp/tutorials.htm

EAC has a good CD burning function built in, and btw 1x is not neccesarily the optimal speed for ripping music. There are other good and effective free CD burning software out there.
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post #8 of 10
7/7/03 at 8:33am
EAC will rip the waves for you far, far better than Nero can. If EAC runs into a problem, it will fix it if at all possible (it may take far longer to rip using EAC if the cd isn't in top quality, but most of the time EAC manages to make perfect copies even with scratched CDs). Nero simply skips over it and leaves you with a 'blip' in the resulting wave file.

I have an old CD that skips while playing in every CDP I've tried it in (including playing direct from my CD-Rom) - and with 20 minutes work, EAC managed to rip a perfect copy off it.

-dd3mon
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post #9 of 10
7/7/03 at 9:05am
Are the dents in the outer edge? Because most of of the time, there´s no data there. I have a CD broken that way and still plays completely, but you're right... I better make a copy before the damage go deeper
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post #10 of 10
7/7/03 at 12:12pm

Re: On CD copying - and why you should.

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Originally posted by wallijonn


(ever have a CD drawer close on your CD and it wasnt positioned right?)
No. What's so hard about putting the disc on the tray or spindle the right way?

I've been using CDs since 1985 and have only had one disc get materially damaged in any manner, and that was because I was using it while trying to fix a mechanically broken cd player. Probably comes of handling a lot of vinyl.

I certainly have nothing against backing up discs if someone wants to, but it should be uncessary if you're careful with your discs. The very rare damaged disc will not justify the time and expense of making the backups (there was a thread on this a couple months ago).
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